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1/25/2018 4:22:28 PM
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Had they considered that customers could just go to McDonalds in the same way those wishing to repeal net neutrality suggest customers could just choose a different, more competitive ISP?
This explanation doesn't seem very well thought out.
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That doesn't seem to make the customers any less upset, and there is far more competition among fast food restaurants than between ISPs.
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Edited by LahDsai: 1/25/2018 4:25:54 PMI realize, I'm just saying their "demonstration" is shit.
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Because, as I said, all it demonstrates is them being complete dicks about it, which goes on the assumption that as soon as net neutrality is repealed, ISPs will immediately implement fast lanes. However, one of the main arguments of those who wish to repeal net neutrality is that it will promote competition as ISPs tried to come up with more desirable packages to attract consumers, similar to how mobile providers have become more competitive in recent years. In the example they provided, one could simply go to McDonalds and get a burger for the standard price and speed as it's the more desirable alternative. That plays right into the argument those who wish to repeal net neutrality so often make. Basically they're inadvertently helping their oppositions argument. Granted, as you said, there's less ISP competition, but that just exemplifies why their demonstration is fundamentally flawed.
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The fact that that these people don't simply leave is proof that the "just go somewhere else" argument isn't an acceptable excuse for shitty behavior. And yes, there will most definitely be fast lanes. Some have already been announced.
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I can guarantee you, if this were real (which I [b]HIGHLY[/b] doubt) there'd be way more people leaving than sticking around.
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You seem to be assuming that the ones who left would be perfectly happy going somewhere else. Their choices wouldn't be staying and being pissed off or leaving and being satisfied. It would be a choice between being pissed off here and being pissed off somewhere else. That's not even addressing the fact that there is far less competition among internet providers than fast food restaurants. There is no evidence that practices such as these would increase competition.
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Edited by LahDsai: 1/25/2018 5:19:11 PM[quote]You seem to be assuming that the ones who left would be perfectly happy going somewhere else. Their choices wouldn't be staying and being pissed off or leaving and being satisfied. It would be a choice between being pissed off here and being pissed off somewhere else.[/quote]Irrelevant. Either way they leave, BK loses money and, potentially, a competitor makes money. This would give BK two choices, change the package to something more desirable (ie: competitive) or continue to lose business. I'll grant you there's no direct evidence that competition will increase, but we have seen more competition between mobile providers in recent years for similar reasons. It wasn't that long ago they were limiting data, now pretty much everyone offers unlimited data plans. What's more, these Telecoms themselves can be a form of competition with ISPs by providing 4G hotspots. I know several people that already do this.
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As I understand it, the increase in competition among mobile carriers came as the result of the major networks being made to allow smaller networks to use their cellular towers. That's not really the same as ending net neutrality.
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No, it's not, but that doesn't mean it's entirely worth dismissing either. All I'm saying is the BK add brought up one possible scenario while simultaneously acting as if there were no other possibilities when in fact, they were creating the exact scenario those whose arguments they were demonstrating against propose could happen.
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Also, in that scenario, the customers would be the content providers rather than the consumers. No analogy is perfect. I mostly just thought this was funny, and because it clearly shows that people don't like being exploited for profit.
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[quote]people don't like being exploited for profit.[/quote] ... and yet, reality TV exists. *[i]band keeps playing as the ship sinks[/i]*
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[quote][quote]people don't like being exploited for profit.[/quote] ... and yet, reality TV exists. *[i]band keeps playing as the ship sinks[/i]*[/quote] Hahaha.
