This post almost moved me to tears. 100% Accurate IMO. Destiny 2 is what happens when a company twists itself up so much in order to try to avoid doing what they've needed to do since Day 1 of Y1 - Separate PVE from PVP. Or at minimum, separate the competitive PVP from the rest of the game so we can feel powerful in PVE and casual PVP can go back to being a fun, chaotic, imperfectly balanced mess that it was. Was D1 PVP ever balanced? Hell no. Was it frustrating? Occasionally, but what PVP mode isnt? But was it fun? Oh yeah. And no matter how much people hated the meta, they just kept coming back to play anyways. IMO, this game was never MEANT to be competitive. But if its going to have competitive PVP, then it needs to be bland and boring AF and standardized, and most importantly, separated from the rest of the game.

[quote]While I do enjoy not being sniped every 5 secs for daring to step away from cover, I do miss being able to do appreciable damage to other guardians - primaries feel weak and grenades suck.[/quote] Titan grenades are strong. Warlock not bad. Hunter - yea, those suck but Hunters have other advantages the other 2 classes can't match. [quote]4v4 doesn't feel like there's enough enemy targets. Feels empty even on these small maps especially when the opposing team is traveling in packs. Supers take too long to charge. I'm almost afraid to use it, as if I'm saving it just for that perfect moment that rarely comes.[/quote] Which is it? I mean, if the opposing teams are always traveling in packs, that's the perfect time to use your super and you should have plenty of opportunities. [quote]Competitive Playlist: What's the point?[/quote] Lots of Trials players play that mode during the week to stay frosty for the weekend and Trials. Other than that, though you have a point. [quote]why choose a shotgun or sniper over a sword or rockets (which feel weak as shit, btw)?[/quote] Because they differ in how you play. Swords are great noob killers, but not very effective vs decent players with shotguns, fusion rifles, or rockets. And I'll take my sidearm or smb over a guy with a sword any day. Rockets are great for multi-kill, but you have to pick your spot due to limited ammo. Fusions and shotguns are insta killers with decent ammo capacity, but require more skill - esp the shoutgun which are no longer the snipers from Destiny 1. I disagree with you completely on your points here. You simply don't like them because it requires you to adapt. Every one of those are OHK/Mulit kill weapons in skilled hands. [quote]There is no gear that offers any feeling of power over another. It's all so bland, nothing feels exciting, nothing that says "I'm a carrot, chase me."[/quote] You mean the one OP weapon which will make it easy to crush your opponents. That's not a bad thing. [quote]For Quickplay? No, as I mentioned earlier, there's just not enough action to be fun. In D1 with 6v6, you could pick just about any spot on the map and find targets to engage. In D2, there's a whole lot of emptiness, either because they're roaming in packs, or just too spread out.[/quote] While this point has [i]some[/i] validity, it's an over exaggeration, IMO. Except for a couple of maps, I rarely have to go looking for a target. [quote]Feels like a zero sum game. Killing yellow bars requires 2-3 rockets and gives you back 2. For regular PvE play, why not let us carry more power ammo, especially for Strike Bosses or NF? With Power weapon options much more diverse, why am I still carrying D1 levels of ammo? Why not let me carry 30-40 shotgun ammo, or 15-20 rockets?[/quote] Total LOL statement. You were shooting for sarcasm, right? [quote]Absolutely. There's little worth chasing, as all weapons are near equal and number too few (plus Vault is too small to hold everything in "a collection game.") There's not much that takes considerable time and/or effort to acquire. With D1, it felt like there was always something to do, something to strive for, something worth logging in for 3-5 nights/week. Not with D2. They went too extreme with the casualness. They need better balance - something for longer term players to strive for, yet casuals can feel satisfied with what they can accomplish within their limited timeframe.[/quote] Nail on the head there. With all the other changes, they needed to add a lot more items to compensate. They don't have to make OP armor or gear, they need to not be lazy and come up with cool stuff people want, even if it's just for aethetics. [quote]Separation of the sandboxes is a MUST!!! Yeah, PvP is pretty well balanced, but we're left with boring, underperforming gear and abilities in PvE.[/quote] Any very good observation. Hammer meet nail, round 2. [quote]No, D2 will not slowly introduce more powerful weapons willingly. At best we'll see some interesting perk combos, but nothing that screams "chase me!"[/quote] And you know this, how? [quote] This entire game has been a drain on everything that made the game fun - power, space magic, chucking grenades, different types of Supers, and larger groups of friends playing together.[/quote] Again, some validity, but an over dramatization. Different supers sure would be welcome, but lets not pretent there was a huge diversity in charcter builds in D1 either. There were more options, but there really wasn't any more diversity as the majority ran cookie cutter builds. Totally agree there should be ways to play with a larger group. Selectable 6v or 4v quickplay, private matches, a LOT more variation in weapons and armor appearance. Less focus on timers to lazily give the illusion of challenge, and for shit's sake let us choose the game mode.

[quote]Which is it? I mean, if the opposing teams are always traveling in packs, that's the perfect time to use your super and you should have plenty of opportunities.[/quote] For the average player? Good luck getting more than 2 kills before being team shot. Yes, there's roaming supers, but many have become hesitant to use them in 1v1s because they don't want feel as if they "wasted" it, and finding other targets can be a pain as they are on the other side of the map [i]and[/i] the game alerts players when a super has been activated. [quote][quote]why choose a shotgun or sniper over a sword or rockets (which feel weak as shit, btw)?[/quote] Because they differ in how you play. Swords are great noob killers, but not very effective vs decent players with shotguns, fusion rifles, or rockets. And I'll take my sidearm or smb over a guy with a sword any day.[/quote][/quote] The context of my statement was for PvE. Kinda retarded that I have to choose between medium damage or heavy damage. And God forbid I want to switch it up for a particular encounter, I'm [i]still [/i]penalized for it by losing half my ammo. Either don't penalize me for switching, or let us hold more power ammo. [quote]I disagree with you completely on your points here. You simply don't like them because it requires you to adapt. Every one of those are OHK/Mulit kill weapons in skilled hands.[/quote] You're saying I don't like shotguns? How can you know that? [spoiler]you don't. You're assuming.[/spoiler] [quote][quote]There is no gear that offers any feeling of power over another. It's all so bland, nothing feels exciting, nothing that says "I'm a carrot, chase me."[/quote] You mean the one OP weapon which will make it easy to crush your opponents. That's not a bad thing.[/quote] You mean it's good thing there's nothing to chase? No weapon that makes you feel powerful? [quote][quote]Feels like a zero sum game. Killing yellow bars requires 2-3 rockets and gives you back 2. For regular PvE play, why not let us carry more power ammo, especially for Strike Bosses or NF? With Power weapon options much more diverse, why am I still carrying D1 levels of ammo? Why not let me carry 30-40 shotgun ammo, or 15-20 rockets?[/quote] Total LOL statement. You were shooting for sarcasm, right?[/quote] Dead serious. And again, it's from a PvE perspective. [quote][quote]No, D2 will not slowly introduce more powerful weapons willingly. At best we'll see some interesting perk combos, but nothing that screams "chase me!"[/quote] And you know this, how?[/quote] Because the entire game has been built around balancing PvP. Why would they willingly throw it all out the window with the 1st DLC? Listen, I'm a PvE first player. So my perspective is about the power fantasy in that mode. You can't have a balanced game for PvP and power fantasy for PvE within a shared sandbox. The needs of both are contradictory, which is why separation is necessary.