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10/19/2017 1:35:19 AM
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LS is in a protected position. He can do whatever and say whatever because Bungie will back him because he has history with them.
What we see with the end product is a design team decision that has rotted from the inside out.
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No offense but can we not use LS to refer to Luke smith it gives me the feeling that he should be important and respected
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lol you’re obviously too young to know. When corporations are involved Money always trumps history/loyalty. If Bungie decides he himself is affecting the bottom line enough they’ll force him to step down. He has to answer to ppl too.
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Edited by Orbital Drop Shock Trooper: 10/19/2017 8:45:56 AMYou’re naive in understanding that once a person has made themselve cushy in a senior position that they wish to keep, they can be very hard to get rid of even if they’re completely incompetant and the end job is horrid. Bad management is pretty much the staple of this, in a perfect business world people always answer to someone but in reality its more effort and risk losing someone for being seen as subjectively bad. There’s a culture involved, you can’t just get rid of someone because they failed their task, it creates a atmosphere of fear and potential legal issues. It needs substance. For the consumers we pretty much just have to accept the mediocrity and Activisions game plan is based on sells so its fine for LS as long as Destiny stays relevant. LS did not fail Activision but he failed the fans, its a short sighted move because in the long run failing the fans will fail activision.
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They can easily dump Luke if they wanted to. Senior position or not. Money talks, not people.
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lol listen millennial, just because you [b]want[/b] to stay in a cushy job doesn’t mean they’re going to keep you there. It doesn’t work like that.
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Edited by madmax0707: 10/20/2017 12:30:06 AMHate to disagree, but in my 30 years of working in IT I have seen poor/bad managers get rewarded That blame for failure is on the backs of the people reporting to said manager
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More like the numbers on sales back him up and protect him, because the "cold hard fact" numbers that most is just ignoring, shows he did his job.
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Edited by Orbital Drop Shock Trooper: 10/19/2017 7:16:04 AMMaybe so, but that would be like crediting Luke smith for creating Halo and the mass advertising scheme of a triple A activision game, because as you say, the numbers of sales shows that he did his job. Destiny 1 largely sold off this perception while D2 largely sold off the promise that it was not Destiny 1 but better. A monkey who did his job would still have the same release sales. What counts for consumers is the quality of the game regardless of sales in 'doing his job'.
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True, the credit is not only his, yet my point remains. He did the job he had to, the game is aimed heavily for the casual % of its player base, he probably got told "do this" and he did it, and the sales and people playing the game and the people reaching end game sooner than their forecast it peoves it. And by all this, I just mean he is not protected because he and bungie have history, he is protected because he did/does the job he was hired to do, regardless of what the hardcore players wants (which is a very small % of the player base as someone in this post was kind enough to share some numbers).
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Joe Staten and Marty had history.....how did that work out?
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Edited by Orbital Drop Shock Trooper: 10/19/2017 3:34:25 AMI meant by acti-bungie. Halo Bungie and Destiny Bungie are two separate identities carrying two very different set of ideals. It took a lawsuit for marty to get kicked and with joe it was obvious something internally wasn't right that did not work with him. Marty and Staten were judged by the high quality of their works, Luke Smith is judged by the low quality of his actions. Bungie isn't the same studio it is anymore we all know that.
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Marty made the Halo soundtracks and made the vanilla Destiny soundtrack. Joe locked himself in a room for 9 hours and made the entire script for Halo 2. What has it taught us? That if they had their way, Destiny would've been great from the start.
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America and England had a history. Look how that turned out
