Hey Nox, been a long time. Like what you said, and been wondering that myself. I've been reading a lot of the forums, reddit and other posting places too. doesn't look very good. As far as the "cancelled their pre-orders," many people won't be able to cancel, even if they wanted. I wish everyone of them the best of luck, but like PS doesn't offer refunds/cancellations except under certain conditions and often wont do it then, so Bungie will still get their money. Others, like with D1 dissatisfied people, sold their copy to places like Game Stop, which only allowed someone else to create an account - giving Bungie fodder about how many people have accounts for the game. I would have liked to try the beta, but there was no way I was going to pre-order. That is nothing more than a marketing ploy to help them with sales, knowing that a good majority won't be able to cancel and get a refund. They know people want to be excited, and are wanting to try the "new" game, so they "pre-order" so that they can try it out. A real beta is one that allows people to try it out without purchasing. A company that allows people to try a beta without the added clause of pre-ordering actually believes in their product and are sure that they have something that people will want to buy.