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If we get rid of socialism and let capitalism prosper then yes
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  • The free-market doesn't have a place in healthcare.

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  • [quote]The free-market doesn't have a place in healthcare.[/quote] So you don't believe in healthcare

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  • Strawnan fallacy. There can be a tiered system, with private options and single-payer, but market-healthcare is a failure that has been tried in the US and didn't work.

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  • [quote]Strawnan fallacy. There can be a tiered system, with private options and single-payer, but market-healthcare is a failure that has been tried in the US and didn't work.[/quote] Lol its been the best healthcare in the world it's created every drug on the planet and created a home for the best doctors on the planet. So how did it not work? Also negative what a mixed system does is makes private healthcare only affordable to the rich because it creates a public monopoly

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  • [quote][quote]Strawnan fallacy. There can be a tiered system, with private options and single-payer, but market-healthcare is a failure that has been tried in the US and didn't work.[/quote] Lol its been the best healthcare in the world it's created every drug on the planet and created a home for the best doctors on the planet. So how did it not work? Also negative what a mixed system does is makes private healthcare only affordable to the rich because it creates a public monopoly[/quote] America was ranked 37th in healthcare.

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  • [quote][quote][quote]Strawnan fallacy. There can be a tiered system, with private options and single-payer, but market-healthcare is a failure that has been tried in the US and didn't work.[/quote] Lol its been the best healthcare in the world it's created every drug on the planet and created a home for the best doctors on the planet. So how did it not work? Also negative what a mixed system does is makes private healthcare only affordable to the rich because it creates a public monopoly[/quote] America was ranked 37th in healthcare.[/quote] By sum dipshits

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  • This is why you amaze me ghost; you know better than all the experts even though you can hardly string a sentence together.

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote]Strawnan fallacy. There can be a tiered system, with private options and single-payer, but market-healthcare is a failure that has been tried in the US and didn't work.[/quote] Lol its been the best healthcare in the world it's created every drug on the planet and created a home for the best doctors on the planet. So how did it not work? Also negative what a mixed system does is makes private healthcare only affordable to the rich because it creates a public monopoly[/quote] America was ranked 37th in healthcare.[/quote] By sum dipshits[/quote] So the world health organization which uses data, statistics and an unbiased system to measure the healthcare of each nation vs ghost who wants to believe that Americas healthcare is the best for the sake of his argument and he has nothing to back that up beyond he feels like Americas is the best. Which am i more likely to believe?

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Strawnan fallacy. There can be a tiered system, with private options and single-payer, but market-healthcare is a failure that has been tried in the US and didn't work.[/quote] Lol its been the best healthcare in the world it's created every drug on the planet and created a home for the best doctors on the planet. So how did it not work? Also negative what a mixed system does is makes private healthcare only affordable to the rich because it creates a public monopoly[/quote] America was ranked 37th in healthcare.[/quote] By sum dipshits[/quote] So the world health organization which uses data, statistics and an unbiased system to measure the healthcare of each nation vs ghost who wants to believe that Americas healthcare is the best for the sake of his argument and he has nothing to back that up beyond he feels like Americas is the best. Which am i more likely to believe?[/quote] You mean a bunch of government beurocrats measuring by coverage instead of quality

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Strawnan fallacy. There can be a tiered system, with private options and single-payer, but market-healthcare is a failure that has been tried in the US and didn't work.[/quote] Lol its been the best healthcare in the world it's created every drug on the planet and created a home for the best doctors on the planet. So how did it not work? Also negative what a mixed system does is makes private healthcare only affordable to the rich because it creates a public monopoly[/quote] America was ranked 37th in healthcare.[/quote] By sum dipshits[/quote] So the world health organization which uses data, statistics and an unbiased system to measure the healthcare of each nation vs ghost who wants to believe that Americas healthcare is the best for the sake of his argument and he has nothing to back that up beyond he feels like Americas is the best. Which am i more likely to believe?[/quote] You mean a bunch of government beurocrats measuring by coverage instead of quality[/quote] Not everyone will be able to afford the best-quality treatments, care and facilities, so measuring on that alone is wrong. State of the art facilities are meaningless if only a few have access to them.

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  • No it doesn't. Look at Canada. We have both private insurance and a basic standard of healthcare for everyone.

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  • [quote]No it doesn't. Look at Canada. We have both private insurance and a basic standard of healthcare for everyone.[/quote] Yes and your private Health Care is more expensive as a result

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  • Yes but it is far from unaffordable.

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  • [quote]Yes but it is far from unaffordable.[/quote] I'd also like to add this is so false you still pay for everyone else in taxes plus the private healthcare if you get it so no its not affordable

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  • Yes it is. Taxes are not crippling, and private coverage is something millions have.

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  • [quote]Yes it is. Taxes are not crippling, and private coverage is something millions have.[/quote] I've seen your taxes most pay about half their paychecks in taxes. Not like it's much different here unfortunately. Whenever you create a public option it always makes the private option less affordable it's really common sense.

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  • But it isn't *that* unaffordable. It's still accessible.

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  • [quote]But it isn't *that* unaffordable. It's still accessible.[/quote] Not nearly as affordable as here. We'd be even cheaper if we deregulated it and dumped obamacare. It's sad before Obama we had 85% of the population privately insured now we have 1/4 the population on Medicare and the middle class got screwed completely out of insurance. Now unless you're rich or poor you cannot afford insurance

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  • [quote]Yes but it is far from unaffordable.[/quote] It be more affordable if public healthcare didn't exist.

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  • Do something about crony-capitalism and open the medical insurance market up to competition. More people will be lifted out of poverty and be able to afford insurance. Fewer people will need social programs for their medical needs, cost less for the taxpayers and states could afford to support their healthcare needs. When people say, "capitalism doesn't work" they're only half right. Crony Capitalism doesn't work.

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  • [quote]Do something about crony-capitalism[/quote] I fear that particular cat has grown too large to be stuffed back into the bag 😧

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  • I hope it's not too late. If it continues it'll solidify class systems. A modern version of feudalism, so to speak. The only way to prosperity is to be born into a family with political, government or big corporation connections. Those not born into families with these connections would have no alternative to escape poverty other than illegal activity (theft or black market.)

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