It's a post for the adults because it's their behavior that needs to change if anything is going to change for two reasons. Firstly, The kids that are being annoying and disruptive aren't going to change if nobody points things out to them. Many of them don't understand what they're doing wrong (or else they'd stop), and if they don't understand what they're doing wrong, kicking them ins't going to fix that, it's just going to confuse them. So talking to them before kicking them is the way that the kids learn. The second reason is that there are a lot of adults out there who are forgetting that, even though this is what they do to relax, they're still dealing with children who exist in the real world. And a lot of those adults are being a bit abusive to some of these kids. I had a raid just the other week with a kid (mid teen years) who was working hard on totems, for Oryx making a couple mistakes, and yeah, making it harder to complete the raid. And at first the other people in the raid just told him off a couple of times, but then they started to really give it to him, and you could tell he started getting quieter (he wasn't talking a lot to begin with). Half the mistakes were happening because that section was glitching, but they were using him as an outlet for their frustration, and ended up kicking him. Believe me, this is a post for the adults too. We need to do better if we want to see anything better.

Not every kid who plays this game is a retard. If they're confused why they got kicked and they couldn't conclude it was because they weren't preforming up to standard and failed continuously despite given advice, they clearly are too young to be online. It's the internet, we're not gonna mollycoddle kids because they can't accept how it is

Then don't mollycoddle them, but one of the biggest points is that we want them to improve so we can STOP dealing with the BS, not just reshuffle and get another kid doing the same thing on another day. Kicking a kid is a form of punishment. They're misbehaving, we get rid of them. But any kid, any PERSON, that you punish, you have to talk to them about the punishment. Otherwise, they assume that you're just being a D-bag, and they will excuse/justify their own previous actions by characterising you that way. So, as this post is about FIXING the problem, would you recommend some other way to fix it? A way that is easier or simpler than taking 30 seconds to explain to a CHILD why they need to leave BEFORE you kick them?

Just get another person. We treat kids the same way we treat adults because the always insist that's how they want to be treated

Oh of course we're going to get another person. We were always going to get another person. But sure, let's be lazy and assume that every kid is the same, and that we shouldn't have to be responsible adults and just have a little courtesy to kids.

I'm not taking responsibility for someone else's kid because we want to kick them. I tested your little "idea" and it only made things worse. My team was fully aware of what we were hoping to do in the event of it resulting to us needing to find someone else. And you know how many kids won't leave when you ask them to? All the ones we came across. I fully understand your point and I half agree with it, people are harsh on kids but it's not our problem. We don't go out of our way to bully them, we're just honest

And if you re-read the topic post, that's all I'm asking you to do. Be honest and open, ask them to leave first, and if they refuse, then kick them. How the heck did that "fail"? Seriously, please answer that question, what do you constitute as a "failure" here?

What failed is your little idea to "save lfg" didn't work. So you keep trying to save the kids and we'll keep playing how we are