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Edited by Onion Beetle Fan:
4/25/2017 4:56:58 AM
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Healthcare is not a right. You are not intrinsically endowed with the product of other people's labor. Why is healthcare a right, yet food, water and shelter is not? Is enslaving people such as doctors a human right? Is food a right? How about clean water? Is education a right? Who provides you these things if they are rights? Who pays for it? Who enforces it? Who collects it?
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*Tumbleweed rolling across the room*
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Food, Water, and Shelter are rights as recognised by the UN (as is healthcare and education) If you cannot provide them yourself, then it is the duty of society and your fellow citizens to pitch in so you can have it. That doesn't mean that there cannot be restrictions to deter misuse, but these rights exist and must be recognised. Providing everyone with these rights not only betters the person that needs it, but society as a whole (reduction in crime, increased standard of living, increased skilled-population, etc.)
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[quote]If you cannot provide them yourself, then it is the duty of society and your fellow citizens to pitch in so you can have it.[/quote] What are you going to do if I don't "pitch in?"
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You pitch in by paying taxes. And you're probably aware what happens if you don't do that.
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[quote]You pitch in by paying taxes. And you're probably aware what happens if you don't do that.[/quote] So either I give my rightfully-acquired property to the state, or the state will lock me in a cage? That doesn't violate any of these "rights," but somehow not being extorted violates another person's rights?
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Exactly. Welcome to society, get used to it or leave.
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[quote]Exactly. Welcome to society, get used to it or leave.[/quote] Easy there, Stalin. That's no justification for initiating force against others or their property.
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How old are you? I'm guessing you don't own any of your own property.
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But Life is a right Food water and shelter are required for life.
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[quote]But Life is a right[/quote] Not according to people who believe in abortion.
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That is irrelevant.
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The problem is giving that to everyone requires you force others to give up some of their resources.
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[quote]But Life is a right Food water and shelter are required for life.[/quote] Life is a right you have a right to not have it stolen from you
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What? Slaves? They get paid for job anyway and they would have their own clinic too.
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Edited by Stallcall: 4/25/2017 5:00:24 AM[quote]Healthcare is not a right. You are not intrinsically endowed with the product of other people's labor. Why is healthcare a right, yet food, water and shelter is not? Is enslaving people such as doctors a human right? Is food a right? How about clean water? Is education a right? Who provides you these things if they are rights? Who pays for it? Who enforces it? Who collects it?[/quote] Another excellent question - What happens if a doctor refuses to participate in the system? What happens if most (or even all) doctors refuse to have their labor nationalized? That's when the sleeves get rolled up...
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Well, in the UK we have a national healthcare system but we still have private practices. I guess you could work for one of those.
