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Edited by [ＳiＮ]大き氷:
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I don't think they need to track, didn't need it in halo shouldn't need it here. The only reason I can think it does track is because of the AI they are made to combat. To a smaller extent the mobility players in PvP have as well.
Regardless it is a terribly forgiving thing in PvP for a generous reward and for that it should be dealt with. Grenades in general suffer form this. As for the sticky make them not track and if necessary just increase their damage to compensate for that loss. Be that by a flat number increase or blast radius.
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They don't track. They are hitscan. If you cross hair your target and throw the grenade, you hitscan your target and the grenade "follows" the movement during its travel time. This will look exaggerated to other players due to lag. They do not track and you actually have to aim.
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Edited by [ＳiＮ]大き氷: 3/14/2017 12:12:33 AMIf they were hitscan then you wouldn't be able to watch the grenade travel. I don't think you know what hitscan means. At the least you are not using the term correctly. Also to be clear when I say track I don't mean like axion, skips, and the like. Simply that they can and do home in on a target.
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[quote]If they were hitscan then you wouldn't be able to watch the grenade travel. I don't think you know what hitscan means. At the least you are not using the term correctly.[/quote] Of course you would. All hitscan is that when you press the trigger (to throw, fire whatever) the game then calculates/determines whether it's a "hit" it not. In this case a stick. If it's a stick then the grenade will "travel" to the target and stick. What you see as tracking is just graphical.
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Lol So according to you if I throw a grenade across the map then it will follow them wherever the person goes before it reaches them. I'm in complete doubt of them being hitscan. Feel free to prove to me that they are. Not only am I doubting from experience and simply seeing what they do and are that's stupid from a game play standpoint. Hitscan one shot is dumb. I'm sure your next excuse is that they suffer from bloom lol.
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Please Stop exaggerating. It will not do that because of the range is to far it will not scan as a hit. Do t be facetious just for the sake of it. Nothing more to prove. Just play and watch the behavior. Watch what happens when your aim is off and they don't track. I'm open to being wrong but my experience (which is a lot) tells me that's what they're doing. Especially that hitscan is used for other things in the game so the coding is there.
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Edited by [ＳiＮ]大き氷: 3/14/2017 12:33:10 AMGo play duck hunt, or any light gun game, then you will know what hitscan actually is lol. Also that wasn't an exaggeration, it is literally what you are suggesting with your limited understanding of the matter. Also also if the tracking is a result of the target moving and lag then they shouldn't be curving towards and missing as well lol. I shouldn't even need to explain this but this is entertaining.
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You have your theory I have mine. Unless the devs tell us what's exactly happening it's all guess work.
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There's no guessing if you know what hitscan is. Call it theory all you want but what is isn't changing because of that.
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They don't track, stop making up lies, if you used them you would know this😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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They do lol.
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Ok, whatever you say crybaby, keep making up those lies cause you got beat😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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In this case a lie has a lot of value, nothing wrong with that. Not sure what getting beaten or not has to do with it, well I am not petty like most everyone else. Lol.
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No the lies you nerf babies made up have no value at all, if your not petty then stop whining on the forums and play the game, oh yea by the way I have yet to see any video evidence from any of you crybabies, but we both know there is none
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Edited by [ＳiＮ]大き氷: 3/12/2017 1:58:47 AMThey do when they are actually truthful lol. Nobody cares to record something that is blatantly obvious in the game either lol. Also you completely removed the context petty was used in and made it something else to insult me with. You get an A+ in the mental gymnastics team already lol.
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No no one can find any videos cause there is none, it's just a bunch of nerf baby lies, if it's soooo OP then be a Warlock and immediately start winning all your matches, but we both know that will never happen, cause your just whining about getting killed by something 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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Edited by [ＳiＮ]大き氷: 3/12/2017 1:08:57 PMIt was not a matter of finding lol. Please learn how to read lol. Also why warlock? Is there some bias at play? I mean that was clear from the start but the rabbit hole certainly goes deeper. Especially when you realize all classes have access to the grenade type. Regardless switching to something just to match with it is the very opposite of balance. Though trying to speak reason to someone of your nature is like speaking to a brick wall lol. Also also, you only assume I have never used it lol. Anyone who has used the things knows it tracks lol.
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What's that still no video proof, can't find any with allllll the proof out there, that's cause it doesn't exist, if all classes have good granades then why are you crying about stickies being soooo OP. I told you to use the class, so you don't have to make up dumb lies about how it works, and again if it's as OP as you say it is then you should have no problem winning allllll your games if you just be a Warlock and use stickies. Yea, I'm soooo biased, yet your the one who won't even use a Warlock, cause you can't or won't so you just want it nerfed into the ground cause you got killed
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Edited by [ＳiＮ]大き氷: 3/12/2017 8:56:30 PMThe proof is in the game and it is obvious. No one is going to bother to point out the obvious to those like you. Keep asking all you want though just know it will not change the fact that they do track. Also I am really not complaining, crying, whining, or whatever else you might say about stickies I am simply discussing an issue that they have gameplay wise. Which is not necessarily a balance issue in regards to your accusation that I am saying they are OP. Something that I am not saying that they are lol, but say whatever you need to paint me as the evil villain forum goer lol. Also your telling someone something does not make the issue go away, in fact it highlights the issue when that is your solution lol. It shows that the game is far from balanced if the answer to keep an even match is to do the same thing. Also also you are biased lol, clearly. Nothing was said about warlocks let alone classes until you brought it up lol. Also also also I have a warlock, and I have played plenty of it. You are biased, and the least credible person in this discussion at the present lol.
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Really, well I say it's totally obvious that they don't have tracking or magnetism, your just crying cause you got beat. Just cause you don't want to use Warlocks doesn't mean you have to ruin them for everyone else. Babies like you cried about firebolt grenades, so those were nerfed, so we moved to the next best thing, if you want all the grenades to be the same then play COD. Good luck proving your point or getting anything without video proof (we both know there is none) but keep crying on the forums and making up lies along with your nerf baby friends, LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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You are doing a lot of false assumptions. Like me saying anything in regards to this because of a PvP match, or how I do not want to play a warlock lol. These things are not true assumptions lol. Also this is about a grenade not your warlock lol. The bias in you is really clouding any sort of judgement you could have mustered. Also since you are not catching on at all, I and everyone else do not care to prove to you that they track lol. We are going to have the discussion without you, we do not need your approval in any way. So remember that when things change and you refused to be reasonable lol.
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Uh yes, this is about all Warlocks including mine, since the grenade your talking about is a Warlock ONLY grenade, and what you call a "balancing problem" is really a non-problem, since it's only you and a bunch of nerf babies who want it "balanced" just because you make up a bunch of biased lies doesn't mean everyone believes them, it is about you getting beat, I don't believe you and all your other baby friends would be on here whining if you were winning. Everyone with a brain can see your just trying to disguise your NERF post as a request for "balance" for the good of the whole game, when it's just you and a few nerf babies who want this "balance" If things are gonna change then get off the forums, stop whining and PLAY THE GAME crybaby 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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We are talking about sticky grenades, which are not exclusive to warlocks lol. So no there. Also I never said it was a balancing problem, so no again. Also also I am not disguising anything lol, I am being pretty open about what the problem is and how to solve it lol. [quote]If things are gonna change then get off the forums[/quote] This makes no sense as a response to my post lol. You would do well with some sort of a break from the internet at large lol.
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Ok you just wanted to "discuss an issue they have game play wise" that has nothing to do with balance, but you see it does have to do with balance cause the Warlock sticky is fine as is, as for the other class stickies I don't know what your talking about no other classes have stickies, and again if you want all the grenades to be the same play COD, the grenades are balanced so find something else to whine about By the way, still no video proof, I guess it's not that big of an issue if you can't even be bothered to find proof, we both know you or the other babies I talked could not find any, but keep crying your just bringing more attention to your dumb lies
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Edited by [ＳiＮ]大き氷: 3/13/2017 1:43:30 AMI will say again I and no one else cares to go get you some proof to spoon feed you lol. Especially since you use them and deny it, at best you have been throwing the things directly at players and never saw the things orbit a target lol. Sheer luck on your part. Again you aren't getting the proof you are kicking and screaming for lol. Though the fact that you are even arguing against the tracking being nerfed shows you indirectly acknowledge it by the way. I mean if it truly did not exist you would not be here lol. Guess you did not think about that lol. Anyway entertaining you some more the issue has nothing to do with balance. It is a game design issue, one of consistency and expectation. You can very easily make something balanced nobody cares about that though. Well so long as we are speaking of those that can think further about it than nerf lol. Stickies are available for all classes still, and COD has nothing to do with this. As for me wanting all grenades to be the same, that's another fabrication on your part. I again recommend the break from the internet for a while.
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Ok keep lying, no proof=no truth, it's cool we both know that you or your nerf baby friends can't find any. Warlock stickies are fine, they don't need to be " looked at" "tweaked" "balanced" or " brought in line with other nades" or whatever other slang terms you babies are using for "nerf" these days, stop making up things to complain about and play the game, or you could play Barbie Dress Up, Paper Mario or Pokémon Go, those games are probably more your speed, they have no Warlocks or sticky nades in them😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
