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3/9/2017 7:44:31 PM
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Didn't the black hammer only drop in Crota Normal Mode? And then all the primaries dropped in Crota Hard Mode? So if they only raise light level on hard mode will special raid weapons such as black hammer even drop? Hmm..thinking maybe we wait for all the facts before making requests like this one about white nail perk.
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  • no black hammer afterall...

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  • Reason why some vets ran normal then hard.. hope its in the loot table of hard mode.

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  • That's actually a really good point. I would love it if it's in the loot table but I guess I'm not holding my breath.

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  • Dude, there is no reason not to include the special weapons

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  • I don't make the rules or disagree with you, these are just the facts about how they created separate loot tables in the past. Just saying we don't know all the details and facts about how/what weapons are gonna drop in the updated raids, people are making assumptions.

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  • All weapons from a raid drop in its hard mode

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  • Incorrect... they were separated prior to TTK.

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  • Nope! go back and look at the loot table for Crotas End https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/84739454?path=1 "•Special/Heavy weapons do not drop on Hard Mode"

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  • NOPE. It is you who is incorrect. Yes special weapons were not in the hard mode loot table, however, all items can be obtained by only doing hard. There are 2 separate tables, normal and hard. Hard mode can draw 1 item from BOTH tables IF you have not done normal yet (I believe it reset once a week)

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  • They did not drop in hard mode. They still dont. Kf is different because all weapons drop in both modes only different variants. Go ahead and run a hard mode crota. Post your video here of all your loot drops. You can't even get the normal mode ship on hard. You either weren't here in y1 or didn't raid very often.

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  • That isn't how it worked in y1. If you ran hard mode first you missed any chance of normal mode loot for that week

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  • Nope. If you ran hard first you got both drops. Been like that since VOG release

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  • Nope. I religiously raided in y1. Normal mode loot did not drop in ce. It still doesn't. vog did though. I got a preadyth's revenge along with a fatebringer one time so I know it did there.

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  • Lmao yes it did. That's what the double drops were. 1 drop from each table.

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  • Not in CE... If you ran HM you could NOT get the black hammer, Swordbreaker or the Hunger of Crota.... Ever!

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  • But by all means go ahead and run hardmode. Post video of your loot drops. I'll wait till a special or heavy drops. So take your time

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  • No... they didn't. Hardmode only dropped primaries in Crotas end. And gear. Special and heavy dropped in normal mode. Either you are trolling or you really have no clue. Either way have a good one.

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  • Yes, that's how it is now. Then, Heavy, nor special dropped from Hard... Hence the star that says "Special and Heavy do not drop from Hard Mode"

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  • While that was true they also stated they've changed some things with the loot table. Now I bet you can get both like in KF and WotM

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  • There isn't going to be a normal or hard mode though. It's going to be a 390 heroic mode. A bit different than having 2 separate loot pools. So yes you are likely right.

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  • yeah I hope it's that way too, but we'll just have to wait and see. Point of my original comment is this thread asking for perks to change on black spindle is mistimed, let's wait and see what's gonna roll out then people can make requests like this based on the facts.

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