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1/29/2017 9:34:50 AM
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Appeasing young people (the ones who predominantly are in favour of all those things) is fine, but they aren't the ones who vote.
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The 18-35 people do vote. The people that will be leading our country soon.
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You mean the ones that totally swung the election in Sanders' favour? Young people are notorious for being the smallest demographic to vote.
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Yes, because they know how screwed the system is. That's why Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders type politicians are essential to the future.
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If they're the solution, how come the problem hasn't been solved with them in the situation? What makes you think this grand revolutionary shake-up of the Democratic Party will do more than what Paul/Sanders has done, and made a lot of noise which ultimately led to nothing? At the end of the day it comes down to making people vote, not simply saying things they agree with, that's why Trump used such aggressive tactics in the campaign.
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They haven't been elected due to corruption and bias within both parties.
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That didn't stop Trump, nobody on either side wanted Trump yet here he is.
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No one tried to steal votes from him or cheat him out, unlike Paul and Sanders.
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Edited by Cultmeister: 1/29/2017 10:18:21 PMEverybody was throwing axes at him though. There were scandals left, right and centre about his personal views. Even after he was elected people were claiming he only got in on the backs of the Russians hacking into Clinton's emails. I mean people on the right claimed all the way through that Clinton was rigging elections, it seems silly that she would try to rig one against sanders but not bother against trump when it actually mattered. Back to the point though, if the high-ups in both the main parties are so wedded to their own corruption and status quo, a bottom-up approach isn't going to work. They're already the top dogs when it comes to rigging things and getting their way so they can easily manage things like Sanders and Paul because they have relatively small influence in the top-dog-club. Trump has huge influence and so can get where he wants unscathed. If anything these guys need to form a new party. More parties would be good for American democracy.
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Third Parties have no chance in the American political system. That's why it's smarter to reform the two parties from the inside, with grasdroots candidates.
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Except voter turnout has been abysmal over the last few years, so a third party could easily get the electorate interested in what they have to say. A large reason for the low turnout is public apathy, and I think a third party could be just the thing to reinvigorate people, as they can market themselves as truly different, rather than democrats wearing a different hat.
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It likely wouldn't work. There's a major public bias against third parties; not to mention the last third party candidate to amass any electoral votes was George Wallace, and that was a completely different time.
