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This idea is going to put me on the list of insane, radical outcasts like Dredgen Yor, Osiris and Toland, but please, hear me out. As you said, the number of Guardians is dwindling, as is the number of ghost tasked with keeping them alive. For as long as the Guardians have existed, our efforts (however valiant they were) to restore the Traveler or even bring it out of its state of dormancy have been unsuccessful. we retrieved the shard of the Traveler that had been corrupted by the Hive, and still the Traveler remained silent. My theory is this: Under the proper direction and supervision from the Vanguard, we could use SIVA to repair the damages that the Traveler sustained, and restore it to full functionality. It's been mentioned by Saladin that under the right direction, SIVA could provide anything a civilization could need. It's actually very similar to Glimmer in that it is a programmable matter that can be directed to form different materials and perform various tasks. SIVA is not self-aware; it can do nothing without a directive. The Archon Prime and apotheosis of the Devil Splicers, Aksis, was the one who bent SIVA to the Fallen's will, and used it for chaos and destruction. Aksis is dead. SIVA is now, dare I say, a harmless programmable firmware. If the Light of the Guardians could be, as Toland put it, "as a dying sun", it could surely be powerful enough to bring SIVA back to its original purpose and designate it for purposes the Guardians and the City need to function. Please tell me what you think of this; I'd love to discuss this with you all.
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  • No h*ll no, the Traveller is [b]EVIL[/b] I need to emphasize my point because people don't understand this, with the Traveller being augmented with SIVA it would be unstoppable, imagine this: The traveller is rebuilt floating over 10,000 miles away from in front of you but it is still so big it covers at least 3/5ths of the sky in front of you, you are weak and have no more light having the Traveller took it from the guardians, you use an ancient Golden Age weapon like a Khvostov and release fire upon a group of lev 40 red eyed Siva ghosts shooting lazer beams.

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  • I guess that's not entirely impossible. It would be much safer if SIVA was simply used to revive the Traveler. The last thing this galaxy needs is an all powerful space orb on steroids...

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  • It's bad enough, without the steroids, don't give it any.

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  • I'd say it's a good idea, bordering on the edge of madness. Imagine the Traveler as a computer, or an engine of sorts. SIVA could be used to jump-start the Traveler's regenerative processes, not only awakening the entity, but also increasing our own abilities by a substantial amount and allowing us to operate further away from the Tower without weakening us.

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  • Exactly! Think about how far we could expand past the current walls of the City if the Traveler was at full power? I feel like I'm going to get banned from the City for this...

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  • It's believed that SIVA is under Rasputin's direction. And Rasputin may well be the one who devastatingly crippled the Traveler. I'm not convinced that when the Traveler awakens, it won't want to wage a War against Rasputin.

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  • Even if SIVA ever was under the control of Rasputin, I find it highly unlikely that he would just hand over the keys to the house of Devils.

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  • Unless Rasputin looks at us as an enemy.

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  • If he does, it seems odd that he hasn't already annihilated us all with his orbital weapons and warsats. But you'd think he would see the races that launch constant attacks on his bunkers as enemies, rather than the ones who always show up to stop these assaults.

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  • The last time Zavala and the Consensus sent a team to try and communicate with Rasputin, they found their remains scattered across the Cosmodrome. Whatever happened, Rasputin doesn't seem to trust us. Not entirely anyways.

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  • While Rasputin may be for the most part self-aware, it's possible it still has a hardwired self-defense directive. But if it was Rasputin who killed the team sent to communicate with him, why would he send access codes to a team of Guardians? And if he did that as a trap, it seems strange that he didn't attack or seal in the Guardians once they entered his bunker.

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  • I believe that Rasputin is bidding his time. Every time he's been "infiltrated" by enemy forces the Guardians are invited in to handle the threat. He observes us, learns from us and has yet to make a decision.

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  • He's scanning us and testing us to create his new uber-frames capable of killing Guardians.

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  • And if Rasputin is as powerful and dangerous as everyone thinks he is, why can't be defend his own stronghold?

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  • What do the Hive and Fallen want from him?

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  • The Fallen want his tech, the way they wanted SIVA. The Hive, I believe, just want to destroy it, as he's our last best defense against them making a full assault on the Earth and City. He was involved in fending them off originally. I believe that he may be the reason that the Hive never made a full Advancement to Earth, after we abandoned Luna to Crota.

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  • Edited by DrifterBlues: 1/8/2017 2:13:52 PM
    Even if SIVA was under Rasputin's direction, it was still just a programmable hardware until the point when the Devils took control. I don't think SIVA was designed to artificially augment organic creatures. As far as Rasputin goes, I think that he IS biding his time, but that he's using that time to assess the three species that come in contact with him most: the Fallen, the Hive, and...us. I speculate that he's trying to evaluate all three and come to a conclusion about which is the most dangerous, either to him or just in general. Think about it - every time his bunker has been breached, it's been done by a powerful race. The Hive, with Omnigul leading an assault on his core, and the Fallen, with their attempt to crack his firewalls and take control of the entire warmind network. If either one of those attempts succeeded, it would be very, VERY bad, both for Rasputin and the City itself. But each time Rasputin was under attack, by extremely powerful enemies, a race even more powerful than the first two arrived to save Rasputin and send his attackers to oblivion: our race, the Guardians. If we're capable of fending off both the Fallen and Hive when Rasputin himself couldn't protect his own bunker, then think about how powerful we must seem to him. He could be wondering the exact same thing about us as we are about him: if we're so powerful, why haven't WE attacked HIM yet? It's highly likely that we're both trying to figure each other out, before we decide if we should join together or see who can destroy the other one first. Both us and Rasputin, we're both in the same situation.

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  • Pretty much.

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  • Well it seems obvious that the Fallen and Hive want access to Rasputin's pre collapse knowledge, as well as access to the warsats

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