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[b][i][u]Country[/u][/i][/b] Over the years most 'Country' music is just knock off and embellished 'Pop' music. The only major difference is that they exaggerate a nasally tone and the elongation of the letter 'R" in words to give the 'Country' twang to their genre. The instruments do not have all that different sound anymore, for they have opted away from the use of the tortured cat (Hawaiian/Steel) guitar. Moreover, many recent songs from country artists are plagiarized ROCK songs and also even last year there was an investigation into the manufacturing of a country hit. It appears that 4 of the top songs were all written in the exact same tempo, scale, nearly note for note, chorus, but only changing the words and by not too much. They were just all done by different 'artists' (read: performers), so they sounded enough different that not everyone (read: the simple minded music listeners) did not readily pick up on it. It's almost as if they've run out of talent and ideas. But how many songs can you make about tractors, pick up trucks, jilted hick lovers, your dog, and a plastic beer cup? [b][i][u]Rap[/u][/i][/b] Where to start... Granted I have not heard all there is in rap, for I can't stand it. What I have heard of it; Overall I despise with a passion the message of the majority of the rap music that has been made (inb4notallrapisnegative, I said majority, not all) (inb4rapisntnegative, what of it do you listen to?). All wanna be rappers all go for the same formula that they see that made it big somehow. Guns, intimidation, disrespecting most everyone, drugs, alcohol abuse, abusive sexual practices against women, and just plain ego on steroids. Before anyone says 'Well ,that is the same thing as sex, drugs, and rock & roll'. I'll stop you here. That's not HOW S,D, R&R worked. Sex and drugs were synonymous with the Hippie generation where rock took off, but it wasn't meant as the rappers use it. In that era it was about peace and 'love', but not really love.... different discussion. Now, couple that with the lack of any real musical content. To be more high brow they add 3 piano notes repetitively to a song, like that somehow elevates it. The background music is so predictable. Then import techno noises, which does nothing more than make the repetition even worse. The delivery of the words tends to be angry and yelled. (Again.... not all, but too much does) [b][i][u]Hip Hop[/u][/i][/b] It's not the worst of the 3, but I won't go out of my way to listen to it either. It all seems manufactured. So much of it seems to be whiny, man boys trying to act tough while warbling 8 notes per second to his love target of the moment. Pouring out his affection for her (body), even though he is not aware of her name. It at least has some form of musical content that could be listened to, but the manufactured aspect of that tends to kill it, if the words don't nauseate you first. [b][i][u]Pop[/u][/i][/b] FAKE, FAKE, and FAKE It is filled with performers brought in because of how they look rather than any possible musical ability. Scantily clad eye candy gyrating while the song, written by a 40-something over weight, bald guy plays in the background by studio musicians. It all follows a manufactured component that all 'hits' are derived from. The performer, who can't carry a tune in a bucket, is auto tuned to sound somewhat on key. Then out of ego the performer does all manner of publicity nonsense, sometimes losing their minds, and becoming drug addicts because of the pressure put upon them to stay on top. There are a few Pop performers out there who really do have talent, write their own stuff, and play their own instruments. They are the minority of this genre. Back in the day all genres of music were made by individuals or bands, writing, playing, and performing their own work. To me, that is when music meant something more than it does today. Heck, some innovators created the very equipment and instruments they played. That isn't saying it still doesn't exist. You just don't see the likes of Boston, Van Halen, Grand Funk Railroad, ELO, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Chuck Berry, Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Styx, REO Speedwagon, Blondie, GnR, The Beatles, Clapton, Rush, Queen, Michael Jackson, Motown in general, and for the record Barry Manilow and the Carpenters, many, many bands and artists from the 60's - 90's, but all that changed the face of music somehow. Hit makers that made their own songs (maybe not all Motown). Even Country bridged the gap into Pop for a time (mid-70's), and it didn't suck. Just the entire environment has changed. This was therapeutic.
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  • How do you feel about rap like this?

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  • Edited by Cobravert: 12/24/2016 3:17:41 PM
    Honestly, I don't care for it at all. The exact same beat, notes, repetitive measures, and the fact that I have trouble understanding the rapper, plus he's talking about 'love' with explitives. - to me it provokes negative mindset rather than having anything to do with 'love'. The guitar plays the same 3 up scale notes like it's a riff, but it is so basic simple, and adds nothing of value to the song, it actually sounds like when the spider from Centipede makes an appearance in the old arcade game. The more I listen to it, the more I can't see where all the rhyming makes any sense. At times it's just a bunch of pronouns and verbs thrown in to extend the sequence, but they make it muddled, not clearer. And I can not understand a single word the back up chorus girls are singing at all. All this while I am really trying to listen and understand it, but I can not. Of his entire message, he never really got down to 'love', but more was toward the physical aspects of his attention.

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  • Edited by tjustie: 12/24/2016 4:15:01 PM
    Aight. That's fair. I'd disagree on most of the rhyming not making any sense (except for a couple lines), but otherwise those are fine opinions. Rap's not for everyone, especially if you're looking for more musical complexity. The actual music is only meant to serve as the background and kind of set the mood in most rap after all. As for the swearing and more generally the language used in rap, that's a big part of why I personally like rap so much. What you have to understand is that a lot of rap comes out of impoverished communities and is as much a representation of the culture of those communities and the experiences the artists have gone through as it is just music to listen to. The ghettos and poorer areas that spawn a lot of rap aren't going to be filled with speakers of what's generally considered high brow language. People will swear and African American Vernacular Dialect is gonna be spoken much more. To me, that's a big part of what attracts me to rap, in that it's very raw and honest about what it is and where it comes from. If that's not your cup of tea, that's fine, but I don't think that's a knock against the genre. Also, I think the background singers and chorus on that particular song are in French, so yeah.

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  • Hip hop is a movement (break dancing, graffiti, fashion, way of talking, etc.), rap is a music genre. Rap also has subgenres. It sounds like you don't like gangster rap and mainstream rap(no one likes mainstream rap lol). But if you appreciate word play and music that paints a picture for you, you should check out lyrical rap, underground rap, and conscious rap.

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  • Wow, long read but well said, I agree with all of that.~consume enhance replicate~

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  • [quote]Wow, long read but well said, I agree with all of that.[/quote]

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  • Well -blam!-ing said

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  • [quote]abusive sexual practices against women[/quote] It amazes me how pretentious people can get when they talk about their disdain for rap music.

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  • Edited by Cobravert: 12/22/2016 8:48:03 PM
    How exactly is being against [quote]abusive sexual practices against women[/quote] pretentious?

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  • Edited by Psyntifik: 12/22/2016 8:52:36 PM
    Because I'm positively certain that people don't talk like that. I remeber seeing one comment a while ago where he used the word 'females'. It's like when people talk about the vulgarity they find in rap music, they need to make a point that they would never use such language - as though they are in some way better.

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  • FYI, using the actual terminology here will get you banned. So saying what I did in no way changes the context. [quote]I remeber seeing one comment a while ago where he used the word 'females'.[/quote] Yeah, and? [quote]It's like when people talk about the vulgarity they find in rap music, they need to make a point that they would never use such language - as though they are in some way better.[/quote] I dont see your point at all. You are against the use of the word females or women? I'm absolutely positive that people do still use those words. It's not like they have ever been replaced by anything. Does this make me better? Better than what? Rappers who call women all manner of degrading terms? I never said or made any assertion that I don't swear. But thatwas never part of the conversation, so why bring it up? But for the record, NO, I do not use those same degrading words to talk about women. If you do, it shows an extreme lack of respect for others, and no sense of dignity.

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  • Edited by Psyntifik: 12/22/2016 10:21:02 PM
    No, it won't. Your only option isn't "sexual practices". Are you really asking me if I'm against the words 'women' and 'females'? It seems this has all gone over your head.

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  • Not the way you worded it. I wasn't seeing any reference to that in your reply at all. Follow that up with you said specifically "Females", what other possible conclusion could there possibly have been? So maybe say what you mean next time.

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  • I did. It just went over your head.

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  • No, it did not go over anything when what you said directly indicated otherwise. [quote]I remeber seeing one comment a while ago where he used the word 'females'.[/quote] There is no debating that.

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  • It wasn't its own point, though. It was related to the post before it.

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  • Whatever makes you feel better. Doesn't change any of what you said.

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