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9/23/2016 7:37:10 AM
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This appears to be based on [i]privileges[/i] where, if you do particular things on the site, you will be granted access to particular functionality, presumably because you are seen as a more trustworthy user.
It is actually a good idea and has been shown to work really well on other sites. I've also been an advocate of implementing somewhat similar functionality on b.net.
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True, but the reason why people dont want this because of silly trolls. They will pretend to be nice and happy until level 3, everyone is mainly hating on it because of the mass flaging of videos. Because in the past you can apprently mass flag videos non stop and they will get taken down for no reason, sure the video can be up again, but this rarely happens, you'll get a community guideline strike witch means you cant remove it if you get 3 your whole channel is deleted and cant get back up. Like this one guy (idk his channel name) but somone mass flaged one of his vids and his channel was demonitized and removed from youtube. (De monitized means that you cant make money on videos anymore) he tried to appeal the strikes that he got and it did work after they actualy reviewed the strikes. His channel was shutdown for 3 weeks before returning I mean its a good thing yes its just the super tools that they will implement to help out trolls. It'll be like a leaderboard to how many vids someone taken down. This is a problem, if you used youtube yourself smaller channels get shut down for no reason, I dont know it was on youtubes part for that
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Or yeah, captions... they will edit the captions and itll be like "I love poop" spammed in the captions. Even though somone can edit this but its a silly part on youtubes part
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After reading this post and your subsequent responses below, I agree 100%. This is exactly the functionality that I feel leads to a stronger community. Incentives work. Progressive, incremental privileges work. I've personally seen it on several other online communities with great results. And it's the foundation I'm building my own website on. When you allow the community to work towards their own progression, have a more active role in it's moderation, and provide incentives for members who put in the effort to do so.. its people are far more likely to view the community as "theirs". And people don't like "their" stuff being shit on. It creates a community where the members view their relationship with moderators and owners far less as a "us(the average members) vs them(the mods and administration)" situation, and more of a "we" and "us" community. The "us" becomes everyone who cares about the well-being of the community, and the "them" are the people who don't. I personally feel that the biggest issue with the Bnet community is that the voices of the "good" members are too easily drowned out by the "lulz itz jus teh interwebz" crowd. There's plenty of people who do what they can to improve this place, but leave with little idea of whether or not their actions left any actual impact. Their posts get downvoted to oblivion because they don't coincide with the vocal majority. They have no idea if the powers-that-be are noticing their efforts. So it begins to feel like we're attempting to whisper against the wind for no reason at all. And we become less inclined to do so because no one wants to be seemingly universally hated for tying to make the this place better when it's just easier to keep your mouth shut. Or even worse.. join everybody else. Which only increases the problem.
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Have you seen YouTube comment sections? It wouldn't work. If someone sees a video about something they don't like (based on opinion) they would try to get it taken down.
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If they reported non-inappropriate content, their future reports would (and should) be taken less seriously. I have no doubt whatsoever that is exactly how reporting content on YouTube [i]already[/i] works. Besides, by the time a user attained that privilege, they would very likely already be trusted enough to do so. I don't think people really understand what YouTube is actually doing.
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Well the bots YouTube uses aren't the greatest. Also, a bit unrelated, but I have been having Destiny issues and I have gotten no help despite multiple posts. Who do I contact?
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Its a terrible idea
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is you're sword pointy?
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They need to force the moderators to give reasons for a ban,or at firstly have people only be able to request a ban,after x amounts of successful bans they then don't need approval
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I won't reply because I'm gonna get banned... oh wait
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You mean like limiting new users on the amount of posts they can make?
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Kind of, yes. Put another way, attaining the privilege of making more than say, one topic per day is another possible example.
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I see. I guess I might be for that depending how exclusive it made the site. I like b.net's openness. You guys are more relaxed than a lot of places. Anyways, thanks for taking the time to discuss this. I dont get to chat with mods that often, its nice to hear your perspectives... :)
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Ya of course you are. Dude your kind shouldn't even exist. Cmon ban me. Cmon bud do it. DO IT YOU SQUID!
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Please, ban him.
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IM UNBANNABLE!!![spoiler]this little mod isn't going to do a thing 😂[/spoiler]
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I disagree with you Da.......BANNED
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Seconded. Let's take power away from daz
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[quote]Seconded. Let's take power away from daz[/quote]
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A return of titles/ a system like the one you are describing would work well. Sadly the last time I heard news about bringing back user rewards was eons ego when DeeJ said he was drafting something. Whatever that means.
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Means that he was writing up a [i]possible[/i] way to do it. Similar to how one writes up a rough draft of an essay before writing the finished product.
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I've seen a few wrongful ninja bans, no community moderation system is 100% foolproof
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[quote]I've seen a few wrongful ninja bans, no community moderation system is 100% foolproof[/quote] Ya it's more common than legit bans
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With the exception of pre-approved posts, I would have to agree. I would also have to point out that YouTube already knows this, and so I don't think this move is an attempt at absolute coverage. As far as bans on b.net are concerned, in reality, there are [i]very[/i] few which could be considered "wrongful". At any point I see a post where someone has claimed they were wrongfully or unjustifiably banned, I go and look up what they were referring to. I can say - unequivocally - that in the [b]vast[/b] majority of cases, the claim/complaint is unsubstantiated. Most commonly: - The ban/warning was clearly justified and/or the complainant obviously did not read the rules; - The complaint of "heavy-handedness" and the complainant's expectations are not in-line with bungie.net's expectations (ie. what's permitted on a forum like /b/ when compared to here); - The complaint of a "biased moderator" banning them, even when it was different moderator who took action to the one they wrongly accuse; - The complainant argues that someone else violated the Code of Conduct for a similar offence who has not been dealt with (in their opinion and perspective), that moderation is inconsistent, and therefore their ban was unjustified; - The complainant lies in their complaint; - The complainant omits incriminating information from their complaint; - The complainant attempts to rationalise and/or [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimisation_(psychology)]minimise[/url] (by far the most common); - etc... And in the vast majority of cases where the complaint [i]was[/i] substantiated in some form, it is almost always a mistake which we work to resolve as quickly as possible. We do take these kinds of allegations seriously, but again, they do tend to be unsubstantiated. So I obviously don't believe the commonly-held perception that we're handing out bans unjustifiably en masse is anywhere near accurate nor truthful.
