Unifying America by completely ending welfare which would piss off blm and those below the poverty line even more and would incite rioting?Reinforcing traditional family values through legislation that screws over those who don't fit into the traditional conservative life style? Having politics go in complete favor of Republicans socially and economically rather than attempt to make any compromises? Awesome! That will definitely work with no problems whatsoever!

First, no one said anything about unifying America by completely ending welfare. What was said was that welfare should be replaced with a sink or swim job placement type program complete with drug testing. I am not opposed to some sort of brief unemployment or temporary assistance while awaiting the transition to a paying job, but if they are receiving government assistance of any kind - which is paid for with tax payer dollars - then they should be drug-free, sober, and not someone who simply refuses to be responsible and earn their way. I've got no apologies for anyone who disagrees with that. [quote] ending welfare which would piss off blm and those below the poverty line even more and would incite rioting?[/quote] You're suggesting that we should worry about appeasing BLM and those on welfare by continuing to give them money, by perpetuating the despicable entitlement society that should have never been created, for fear that they will riot and destroy businesses and property in their own community? Do you also believe in paying the bully not to beat you up? Do you also believe in negotiating with terrorists? My answer is simple: peaceful demonstrations are fine, but breaking the law is not. Arrest those who break the law - done. [quote]Reinforcing traditional family values through legislation that screws over those who don't fit into the traditional conservative life style[/quote] No one said this, either. In fact, and as was stated, "more limited government," came right after, "time to restore traditional, conservative, family values." What this means is that we, not the government, should work toward these goals. The government has no place meddling with our lives to the point of social engineering, and the majority certainly should not allow the government to be used to cater to all the exceptions in the world, especially when it is at the expense of its own goals. No apologies to anyone who disagrees with that, either.

[quote]First, no one said anything about unifying America by completely ending welfare. What was said was that welfare should be replaced with a sink or swim job placement type program complete with drug testing. I am not opposed to some sort of brief unemployment or temporary assistance while awaiting the transition to a paying job, but if they are receiving government assistance of any kind - which is paid for with tax payer dollars - then they should be drug-free, sober, and not someone who simply refuses to be responsible and earn their way. I've got no apologies for anyone who disagrees with that. [quote] ending welfare which would piss off blm and those below the poverty line even more and would incite rioting?[/quote] You're suggesting that we should worry about appeasing BLM and those on welfare by continuing to give them money, by perpetuating the despicable entitlement society that should have never been created, for fear that they will riot and destroy businesses and property in their own community? Do you also believe in paying the bully not to beat you up? Do you also believe in negotiating with terrorists? My answer is simple: peaceful demonstrations are fine, but breaking the law is not. Arrest those who break the law - done. [quote]Reinforcing traditional family values through legislation that screws over those who don't fit into the traditional conservative life style[/quote] No one said this, either. In fact, and as was stated, "more limited government," came right after, "time to restore traditional, conservative, family values." What this means is that we, not the government, should work toward these goals. The government has no place meddling with our lives to the point of social engineering, and the majority certainly should not allow the government to be used to cater to all the exceptions in the world, especially when it is at the expense of its own goals. No apologies to anyone who disagrees with that, either.[/quote] Just wanted to say first that I was way out of line by being a sarcastic prick. I apologize and should have started this debate civil. That said, let me respond to each paragraph Your idea is really something for me to think about. If it works and people are making enough money to survive, I'm fine with it. I'm suggesting appeasement, but it's not going to dismantle blm either. Blm started because people were tired and angry of the cop on black violence talked about all the time on media,whether or not the cop was guilty or the black person is another story and depends on which incident. Just ending welfare won't destroy their vocal activity. This misunderstanding comes from a couple of conservatives , (including some in my own family) claiming to be for small government but also saying that gay marriage shouldn't be legal, and that evolution shouldn't be taught in any schools. I found that to be hypocritical. It's extreme, I know, but I apologize for generalizing you as one of those guys. Might respond more on this later, pretty late right now.

[quote]Just wanted to say first that I was way out of line by being a sarcastic prick. I apologize and should have started this debate civil. That said, let me respond to each paragraph[/quote] Thank you, and it's no problem at all. Most people aren't very civil and respectful on the internet these days. It's easy to expect that or even act like that ourselves sometimes. I've done it - in fact, we probably all have at some point or another. [quote]Your idea is really something for me to think about. If it works and people are making enough money to survive, I'm fine with it.[/quote] Nice. I know it's difficult to make what we would ideally want a reality, but I rather like this idea as well. It may sound silly, but if I were only talking about our ideal visions and wishes for a better world, I'd be all for something like what we see on Star Trek lol "The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century... The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity." ~Picard, Star Trek: First Contact http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Money [quote]I'm suggesting appeasement...Just ending welfare won't destroy their vocal activity.[/quote] I differ here in that I would not appease anyone for fear they will do harm and break the law. I would simply do what I believed was right, and arrest those who break the law. I did not, however, mean to say that ending welfare would dismantle something like BLM. I only mentioned it along with some other examples of things which I believe are involved in the problem. In other words, I believe BLM and all that surrounds it is indicative of a much greater problem, which is in our culture, our society as a whole. [quote]This misunderstanding comes from a couple of conservatives , (including some in my own family) claiming to be for small government but also saying that gay marriage shouldn't be legal, and that evolution shouldn't be taught in any schools. I found that to be hypocritical. It's extreme, I know, but I apologize for generalizing you as one of those guys. Might respond more on this later, pretty late right now.[/quote] I understand. We all often generalize one another, but in truth, we simply have our own opinions, based on one thing or another, sometimes there are commonalities, sometimes we can relate, and sometimes we cannot. As long as we respect one another while discussing our views, we may realize that our goals aren't so different. Many times, the primary difference isn't so much in our dream of what a perfect world should look like, so much as it is in what we feel we should do to achieve it.

[quote]traditional, conservative, family values[/quote]BARF