I had to take some time to read both your post and some of the answering posts before responding. So, my conclusion is that there is an undisputed connection between the Ahamkara and the Worm Gods, based On blatantly open use of their catch phrase "oh, ****, mine." But not enough has been revealed to say that they are undoubtedly the same beings. I would hazard a guess that they likely stem from similar origins. Further speculation leads me to believe that the "Sky" is likely a reference to the "Light," and that the "Deep" is almost definitely the "Darkness." This of course making the connection between the Hive's war on their original homeworld, the Fundament, and what we now face on Earth. Therefore the Worm Gods, regardless of whether they are in fact Ahamkara, serve the same purpose to the Darkness as the Traveler does to the light. [i]If[/i] the Ahamkara are the worms, then it goes a long way to explain why we exterminated them. Of course at that time we wouldn't have known the details of their past, but likely there would have been many who recognized the evil they represented. And as most people have already speculated, the Ahamkara are probably not dead. Again if they and the worms are one and the same then the power they gave Oryx to cheat death is a power they hold as well. In the end not enough has been provided to know anything for certain. I would however credit someone else's response that we are dealing with an alien species, one of many so far, and we cannot draw too many conclusions based on words like "worm" and "dragon" and the inconsistencies these present based on our understanding. Calling an Ahamkara a dragon is because it's the best description that fits. Likewise we call them worms because that's what they look like to us. We see the universe through our own narrow windows and try to apply our rules to infinity because we want to make sense of the chaos. I look forward to the next piece of the puzzle they provide.