Looks like everyone is having a hard time coming to a consensus on how this should work. It's hard to get a group of people with differing opinions to agree on something.
I'll try to address some of the legitimate concerns raised here. [b]IF[/b] this council becomes a thing, it won't change anything about how feedback is gathered from the community. Everyone will still be able to share openly on this forum and I will continue to gather up posts from here on Bnet as well as the rest of the community to send to everyone at Bungie. This theoretical council would not be given special treatment like behind the scenes info, or trips to the studio. They would be granted access to a private forum to present the feedback they gather and believe represents the communities interests. Their feedback would [b]not[/b] be considered more important, or the only feedback we consider. It would be an [b]additional[/b] way for the community to share their ideas with the developers.
Good luck with the Council, I think it's an interesting idea and look forward to seeing what you come up with. I'll keep my eye on this and when you are ready to have me take a look at your plan let me know.
Also, If you are someone who is still strongly opposed to this idea, then absolutely keep posting why you don't want it to happen. I always look at both sides of an argument.
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So first you say "go ahead with it, great idea" now your basicly saying "go ahead with it so you can feel special, wont change shit". Good job, nice way to shit on the guys
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Guardian council will be a huge waste of time. Devs will do whatever they want. They don't want to talk to us or they wouldn't take forever to do anything about issues.
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It's funny how you, cosmo, encourage people to speak out against the council. Kinda puts the whole communication with bungie customers into perspective, huh!?
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Can you really expect anything less?
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Edited by KrazyM82: 7/2/2016 7:20:38 PMNope...then again, they seem to be really good at lowering the bar when we least expect it.
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[quote]Nope...then again, they seem to be really good at lowering the bar when we least expect it.[/quote] Silence is the best policy. What could ever go wrong by not saying anything and acting like everything is fine lol.
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Edited by KrazyM82: 7/2/2016 8:49:23 PMStick their head in the sand...and it all goes away! http://www.conversationmarketing.com/disasters/ostrich-head.jpg
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Lol, sometimes i wish i could do that, but unfortunately i don't hide from life.
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FINALLY
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Warframe is a perfect example of the inmates running the asylum.
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Bungie needs counseling in a major way.
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And it's awesome!
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So basically, the council is no different than simply leaving feedback and getting the cold shoulder as always from Bungie... just like I said in another reply. It's a waste of damn time as it will change NOTHING. It's false hope; a scapegoat for Bungie to continue acting as if they give a shit about the players, yet never delivering.
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Just came across this poll... Funny... its clear to me for this poll what people want... will it get done ????????????????? https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/207681070/0/0
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Yea never happen.
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Realistic.
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Edited by JMT911: 6/27/2016 4:51:16 AMDoesn't make much sense to me... Bungie just needs to separate a 'poll's' section of the forums into categorys... AND THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY READ THEM and understand and consider the community's wants and needs a bit more. FYI..Just because someone writes a monster post with an idea doesn't mean its the right one... edit. Still an interesting idea. It could just be alot more simple thats all..
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If their feedback wouldn't be consider "more important" then why even form a group in the first place? I'm 100% against this idea anyways because it would just be a corrupt group of elites that wouldn't speak for the majority.
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It's this kind of attitude that allows dictatorships to flourish.
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How so? Would you care to elaborate?
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Being submissive or the need to be ruled over.
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Oh you're saying that submitting and agreeing to this council is how dictatorships flourish? I wasn't sure which way you were going with your first reply. Thanks for elaborating. I agree, if we allow this group to be formed bungie will pay even less attention to the rest of the community and the select few will have their impact for the entire community regardless if it's in the best interests of the majority or not. Which we both already know doesn't pay a lot of attention to the community.
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Quite the opposite. Submissive to bungie and other producers and publishers.
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You submitted the minute you handed over your money for the game. This is not a government it is a video game studio who repeatedly says they are building the game they want to build. So your only option is to keep paying and playing or move on to another game built by another studio. This is not a dictatorship or a cruel government. It's a for profit business that is making a butt ton of money from people choosing to play its game.