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originally posted in: Complete List of Bladedancer Nerfs
6/17/2016 9:41:51 PM
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And yet, the only non hunter subclass that you could argue is better is stormcaller. Striker [i]could[/i] be considered on par at best. That leaves it better than 4 of the 6 nom-hunter subclasses still. It's still at the point top tier players consider not using a hunter as a disadvantage.
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  • The prombelm is, and always has been, that you can so easily just run away from a blade dancer. It's evsn more pronounced now.

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  • You can run away from any roaming super easily except GG on certain maps, and stormtrance with blink

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  • Arc blade is the weakest super in the game besides ward of dawn.

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  • I mean, I guess if you're talking about DPS?

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  • I'm talking in general. Pve its useless. PvP its a contact only super that can easily be shotgun melee'd especially by warlocks. The hit detection is still bad.

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  • Pve is no longer useless dude. Now I find myself wondering how long till my super is up because I just destroyed a huge group and still have time to go more

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  • You realize a sunbreaker can be shotgun meleed the exact same way? Sure he doesn't have to come all the way to you, but the farther he is the easier it is to make him miss. Arc blade has always been a top 3 super. Now it could be argued that it's fourth, but it's still better than more than its worse than. How is that a problem?

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  • If you get shotgun meleed as a sunbreaker without at least trading you're awful. Hammer of Sol is a ranged super. Arc blade is probably only ahead of ward of dawn as far as supers go, but I haven't used radiance since the update so idk how badly they ruined that till I test it

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  • If you get shotgun meleed as a BD without trading, you're equally bad. Especially with the nerf to solar shield activation. And it's very easy to tell someone is going to try to do it, a razors edge cleans them up easily.

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  • Yeah except when the terrible hit detection on arc blade doesn't register a hit or shortswipes and leaves you for dead. Razors edge works sometimes but usually people see that and its easily avoidable

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  • You can swipe once and throw a razors edge VERY quickly. Practically instantaneously. I've never understood people saying they get "shortstopped" there's close enough for one swing.. or far enough for two. Why are so many people bad at judging the distance? Either way, it doesn't even come close to "shortstopping" now. It's almost as far as a suncharge it you get red crosshair in range. I have had no problems with hit detection. Like.. at all, in a very long time. And watching some top tier trials players, I'm not seeing this disadvantage that you're so slighted over.

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  • Edited by Paladin: 6/18/2016 4:19:38 AM
    If you watch top tier trials players they used sunsingers or Nightstalkers. Very few bladedancers and if they are using bladedancer its not because of the super

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  • Sounds more like you're talking about top streamers than top players?

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  • Nobody that is actually good at the game uses BladeDancer for the super, they use it for QuickDraw.

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  • What does that have to do with where it ranks among other supers? Which is the exact middle at worst

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  • Im replying to what you said to him about top people using it. Where it ranks imo would be here 1. Stormcaller 2. Hammer of Sol 3. Golden Gun 4. Nova Bomb 5. FoH 6. Arcblade 7. Radiant Skin 8. Shadow Shot 9. Bubble

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  • [quote]Im replying to what you said to him about top people using it. Where it ranks imo would be here 1. Stormcaller 2. Hammer of Sol 3. Golden Gun 4. Nova Bomb 5. FoH 6. Arcblade 7. Radiant Skin 8. Shadow Shot 9. Bubble[/quote] You're crazy man. Gg Stormtrance Shadowshot FoH Arc blade Nova (realistically these three are all tied) HoS WoD Radiance In Trials Radiance jumps up 5 spots

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  • Shadowshot top 3 and hammer of sol at the bottom? Lmaoooooo yeah im out. Have a nice night, sir/ma'am.

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  • I wouldn't say that any of them are bad in any way now that there is a build that can take advantage of WoD. Shadowshot is basically GG on a delay, with the highest damage reduction in the game. Now that there's no reason to run black hole, it's taken a huge jump. I didn't say HoS was bad. It just can't beat out the ones above it. Even with how much better it is as of last patch.

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  • Fist of Havoc, nova bomb, stormtrance, golden gun, shadowshot, sunbreaker easily outclass arc blade

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  • Let's get some more miles on this "balancing" update before we make claims like that.

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  • Just go watch some carries. Bladedancer is different. Not worse. Blink is worse obviously.

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