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6/17/2016 12:44:37 AM
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Unless you tv is huge, you won't see any graphical difference between 4k and 1080p. 4k allows for a better picture up close. At the average distance most people sit from even a 50" tv, you won't see a difference.
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Not quite. You'll definitely notice it on a 50". I'd say even anything above 40" at a "reasonable" distance and you could tell a difference. Bigger the screen, bigger the difference you observe. I think when i start seeing content in 50% of the channels broadcast at 2160 then i'll pick up a couple new tvs for the house. Until then i have no use for one. I found 4k movies on my nzb site and they're only around 20GB but the selection is far too limited. It's still a good 18 months away from being close to the norm.
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Edited by Phunkr: 6/18/2016 2:59:45 AMHere's a resolution chart, actually. When most people say there's a "noticable improvement", it's usually because your setup is powerful enough to utilize 4k resolution so it can play higher graphics. A machine with the same power at 1080p can play the same graphics with the resolution just being lower. I own a 50", so I would never notice the resolution difference as I sit over 6' away. Source of chart: https://carltonbale.com/does-4k-resolution-matter/
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Yeah the biggest problem is content adoption. There aren't a lot of channels or movies to make it viable. I've got a PC monitor at 4K, but I play games and edit photos and it is definitely worth it there. For my living room though, I'll be waiting a bit longer.
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Okay, this has gone on too long. Since I'm the only one who actually cares enough to educate everyone, here is a link to resolution based of viewing distance. [url=http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/720p-vs-1080p-can-you-tell-the-difference-between-hdtv-resolutions/]link[/url] Basically, a blanket statement like "you can't tell a difference at X size" is idiotic. 4K PC monitors have been a thing for awhile now. I've got one and its glorious. There is a noticeable difference between it and my 1080p one and they're both 18". I'll say this, I don't know anyone who says "man I wish i wouldn't have gone with such a high definition tv".
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Yeah right. Lol
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No, he's right. Resolution only comes into play the larger you view it. At 32 inches, there's almost no visual difference between 720p and 1080p. Past that point you start seeing pixelization. 4k only makes a difference once you get past 50 inches of viewable space, and for most people, not even until past 55 inches. Anyone who claims they can tell the difference between 4k and 1080 on a small screen is either lying out their ass to look cool and be hip, or they have absolutely perfect unassisted eyesight.
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This argument is just wrong and in no way scientific. When 1080p first came out, it was "anything 42 inches or less", now it's 32, but I can see the difference between a Retina display and a normal HD model on a 22 Mac screen. I can't on my phone.
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...um, actually it's 100% true. I was a licensed dealer for TV's for quite some time.
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There is zero scientific evidence to back this up. So all we have to go on is personal preference and experience. Like I said, I can tell the difference in a 22" monitor. I sure as hell can tell the difference on a 32+. The goalposts keep moving back. And taking Your advice is like having a cigarette company fund a cancer study. Don't buy that 30" tv because you can't see 4K on it because "science". You have to go with this 55" one to truly experience it. Should we put that on your Best Buy card today?
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Whatever, dude. Be righteous in your wrongness.
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How much school did you have to go to to be a "licensed seller" of televisions? Sorry you don't believe me, but anyone standing in front of two 30" tvs will be able to spot the difference. Like I said, 10 years ago it was 42", now it's 32". I've got two gaming monitors for my PC. 18" both. One 1080 and one 4K and I can tell a difference. I'm only three feet away from my monitor, maybe that's why. But it's easy to see.
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I'm not going to argue with you, you've already made up your mind, and that's fine. I don't work in the industry anymore so i don't have much, if any, of my old reference materials. Hell if i know where they ended up, I've switched jobs a bunch since then. But you go talk to Samsung, or Sony, or Panasonic, or Sharp, or LG, or any of the major tv producers on the market today. If you can see the difference on smaller screens, then you likely have very good eyesight, ao kudos to you. Beyond that, we're just going to go in circles here, and i just don't have time for that. So you do you, and you believe what you like.
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And there's the rub. "If you can see if, you must have good eyesight." Glasses for me, contacts for my wife, just like the majority of the market population, we don't have shit eyesight. If I can see it, anyone can. I'll do me, and everyone else don't listen to people like this who say you can't see past 32". Take his secondary advice, my first advice, and "do you". Go look for yourself at Sears or Walmart or Best Buy or wherever and make your own decisions.
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Edited by DMGRGN: 6/17/2016 11:10:32 PMYou know, you can stop acting like you have the superior opinion here. You don't. You're acting like a spoiled child who looked up a bunch of specs online and thinks he knows better than someone who has not only worked directly with the manufacturers of the technology, but also has seen the technology as it's built, and been to more conferences and expos showcasing these protects than you can list on both hands. But one thing is true: people should go and see for themselves what they're comfortable with rather than listen to someone being a jackass online, and chances are, when they go to someplace to see these sets, they'll find someone like me who knows how the shit works when you so obviously don't.
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And Find someone like you who wants to make a good commission. I told you your specs were wrong, and that the industry has been wrong for years, and no one denies that. Sorry that I called you out and you lost. It is quite sad that someone with your level of experience [i]seems[/i] to know less than someone who only has personal experience. You are allowed to concede. Saying that the person who has proven you wrong is "acting like a spoiled child" is the definition of what not to say when losing an argument. The last gasp, the Hail Mary. You've diverted the topic enough. I am right, the naked eye can see the resolution differences on screens smaller than 32". I am proof, a million PC gamers are proof. 10 years ago it was 42" and even you don't believe that anymore. Where does it stop? I am also right. People need to see for themselves. Thanks for acknowledging that much, at least. Feel free to abandon ship.
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[quote]And Find someone like you who wants to make a good commission.[/quote] Wrong, because as i mentioned, i do not work in the industry anymore, and what i learned about the technology hasn't changed. I am not getting paid for this information. [quote]I told you your specs were wrong, and that the industry has been wrong for years, and no one denies that. Sorry that I called you out and you lost.[/quote] You stated your opinion which blatantly opposite to what is accepted as fact in said industry. You called me out and made an ass out of yourself because you don't have any reference point beyond your own eyes. The only one losing here is you. [quote]It is quite sad that someone with your level of experience [i]seems[/i] to know less than someone who only has personal experience.[/quote] It would be, if i was wrong. Which I'm not. [quote]You are allowed to concede.[/quote] Concede what, that my facts somehow are invalidated by your fantasy world? Not necessary. I got this. [quote]Saying that the person who has proven you wrong is "acting like a spoiled child" is the definition of what not to say when losing an argument. The last gasp, the Hail Mary.[/quote] It's called "calling it as i see it" and if the shoe fits, well, you know how it goes from there. [quote]You've diverted the topic enough.[/quote] By presenting a factual comment about the topic based on extensive industry experience that i happen to have, and you don't? Please. Only one if us is engaging in diversion, and again, that person is you. [quote]I am also right.[/quote] No, you really aren't. The only thing you happen to be right about is this: [quote]People need to see for themselves. Thanks for acknowledging that much, at least.[/quote] Since that's the only part of anything you said that was correct, you're welcome. [quote]Feel free to abandon ship.[/quote] My ship is quite seaworthy, brother. Yours, well... not so much.
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Would you like me to find those old articles from IGN, Consumer Reports, NewEgg, etc. that tell us that you can't tell a difference at 42" or lower? They exist. If you're claiming they don't, I am starting to understand why you're not in the industry anymore. Get that license revoked did ya? There's a weekend and $500 down the drain. Seriously, you e done literally nothing to advance the OP or the conversation except for prove how horrible you must have been at your job. I don't really like calling people out about how dumb they are making themselves, but I feel I have to here. You are helping no one, you are giving no information, especially no credible information, and your "proof" and "facts" that you conveniently don't have anymore are a joke. You are the perfect stereotype of the lying forum troll. I'd be willing to bet that if I go into another thread you've posted, we'll find out that you are also and attorney, and a Navy SEAL, and a UFC trainer, and a programmer. All talk, no proof or facts or information of any kind. I guess at least we know you're a liar. You do have the time to waste here😂
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http://lifehacker.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-720p-1080p-and-4k-1731323537 http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/720p-vs-1080p-can-you-tell-the-difference-between-hdtv-resolutions/ http://bgr.com/2015/09/18/720p-vs-1080p-vs-4k-resolution/ http://hometheater.about.com/od/hometheatervideobasics/qt/720p-Vs-1080p.htm A quick google search tells you that you are full of shit. You can keep attacking my former profession, which i was very good at, was promoted more than once, and had effectively zero customer complaints, or you can hang your head and throw in the towel. You think you know me, and you don't. You have nothing worth attacking me with. Just like a spoiled, petulant child. This isn't an argument, this is you trying to puff up your chest and act like the big man when you don't know anything at all. So take your beating and move on.
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Did you read any of those? The digital trends article is one I already referenced. You CAN see a difference beyond 32". It's about viewing distance, WHICH IS WHAT I SAID FIVE POSTS AGO. Dude, you have wasted so much time!! Lmao. What a moron
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Edited by DMGRGN: 6/17/2016 11:55:05 PMIn my VERY FIRST POST, i said that past 32 is when people start seeing the difference. My VERY. FIRST. POST. You can go back and read it. You have quite literally started an argument about nothing. Edit: here's a quote from what i said, seeing as you totally f*cking ignored it: [quote][b]Resolution only comes into play the larger you view it. At 32 inches, there's almost no visual difference between 720p and 1080p. Past that point you start seeing pixelization.[/b][/quote]
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Yes, and your digital trends article says you're wrong, which is why I asked if you even read it. You never said anything about viewing distance, I did. You're credibility is dropping like an anchor.
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[quote]Yes, and your digital trends article says you're wrong, which is why I asked if you even read it. You never said anything about viewing distance, I did. You're credibility is dropping like an anchor.[/quote] ...wow. You are really, really disconnected from reality. Move on, dude. We get it. You don't know what you're talking about. It's cool.
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Go back and look at that digital trends article. A 20" at a viewing distance of 2' is observable. Since you're slow I'll show you. 20<32 I said I use it on my PC monitor and an between 2 and 3 feet away from the screen. You continue to deny this or ignore it. Facts have proven you wrong. Deny all you want. Glad I never bought a tv for you. Probably pushed HDDvD too huh? Betamax over VhS? I'm all outta life jackets. Hope you can swim!
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Edited by DMGRGN: 6/18/2016 12:21:54 AMTo be honest, I'm not reading your posts anymore, I'm just replying when i see a notification come up. All you're going to do is try to defend a position that's incorrect, and you'll try to use elemantary school insults like "you're so dumb" because whatever wrong point you have can't hold up on it's own. So it's cool. Like i said: be righteous in your wrongness.
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Figured. Only way someone could repeatedly ignore their own data. Well, have a good day. Glad you quit. Wish you would have read a bit and educated yourself. Oh well, par for the course with destiny forums I suppose.
