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4/10/2016 11:29:24 PM
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Any proof that said anti-bullying campaigns don't work?
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  • [spoiler]Suicide is the third leading cause of death among young people, resulting in about 4,400 deaths per year, according to the CDC. For every suicide among young people, there are at least 100 suicide attempts. Over 14 percent of high school students have considered suicide, and almost 7 percent have attempted it. Bully victims are between 2 to 9 times more likely to consider suicide than non-victims, according to studies by Yale University A study in Britain found that at least half of suicides among young people are related to bullying 10 to 14 year old girls may be at even higher risk for suicide, according to the study above According to statistics reported by ABC News, nearly 30 percent of students are either bullies or victims of bullying, and 160,000 kids stay home from school every day because of fear of bullying[/spoiler] Maybe not damning evidence, but based on how many suicides are committed, the testimonials of people who see that anti-bullying does not help, I think it is safe to say that it doesn't work, or at the very least if it does work not adequately enough to not consider making a change in how we teach kids about bullying. If we can improve our strategies, and help more kids and prevent more depression and suicide wouldn't you have to do it? What we are looking at here is not simply telling kids it is bad, but actively showing them how to deal with it when it inevitably happens.

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  • [quote][spoiler]Suicide is the third leading cause of death among young people, resulting in about 4,400 deaths per year, according to the CDC. For every suicide among young people, there are at least 100 suicide attempts. Over 14 percent of high school students have considered suicide, and almost 7 percent have attempted it. Bully victims are between 2 to 9 times more likely to consider suicide than non-victims, according to studies by Yale University A study in Britain found that at least half of suicides among young people are related to bullying 10 to 14 year old girls may be at even higher risk for suicide, according to the study above According to statistics reported by ABC News, nearly 30 percent of students are either bullies or victims of bullying, and 160,000 kids stay home from school every day because of fear of bullying[/spoiler][/quote] 1) Bullying is not the only cause of suicide. It may catalyze it, but it isn't the sole cause. 2) Britain =\= U.S. 3) This doesn't take into account our actual topic: have anti-bullying movements been effective? Simply citing current statistics loses the power of contrast from earlier time periods. 4) Source? Article? Etc? [quote]Maybe not damning evidence, but based on how many suicides are committed, the testimonials of people who see that anti-bullying does not help, I think it is safe to say that it doesn't work, or at the very least if it does work not adequately enough to not consider making a change in how we teach kids about bullying. [/quote] What testimonials and again, bullying isn't the sole cause of suicide. [quote]If we can improve our strategies, and help more kids and prevent more depression and suicide wouldn't you have to do it? [/quote] Ok then how? Assuming you're correct, then how? If you're correct, then the anti-bullying movement concluded that there was little in the way of dealing with bullying and tried to stop it at the beginning instead. So how? [quote]What we are looking at here is not simply telling kids it is bad, but actively showing them how to deal with it when it inevitably happens.[/quote] That has been happening parallel to the anti-bullying movement. Notice our rising culture of individuality and maturity.

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  • I don't claim to be an expert, and I don't claim to have all the answers. If you can't see that anti-bullying doesn't work you are blind. And yes I know where is the proof? Truth is I don't have statistics, but I know me, my friends, kids at my school I've been asked to help through bullying, even others on this thread agree. Sure, anti-bullying probably works sometimes, but it is leaving a serious issue up to chance in my opinion. I think by showing kids how to deal with it we will be more successful. What ways you may ask. Again, not an expert, I'm not trained to deal with kids, counselors are and they are the ones that could really implement this plan. Personally, I locked away my emotions and realized other's opinions of me did not matter, I know who I am I don't need their approval. I'm mainly saying mentor people, show them hey here's what worked for me, maybe it won't work for you but it's another tool in your pocket. If it works for you, great, but I know for a fact a lot of kids need more. That's what I'm trying to say, for those kids that need more help who need strategies to cope with bullying because everyday they have to deal with it, they need a little more than "Aw I'm so sorry, bullying is a horrible thing and they shouldn't do it."

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  • So this entire thread is based on anecdotal evidence? So because there is bullying means there was always an equal amount of bullying through the years? I maintain that anti-bullying campaigns combined with our massive culture shift has led to more teens seeing past that shit. The campaigns show the effects of bullying on a global scale. Where do you think all the white knighting came from? There is a huge belief that everyone is special and should be treated as such. The campaigns also brought to light how bullying can occur in many places and ways (meaning any bullying statistics are frivolous at best). In other words, the people who thought they were just "poking fun" learned something. And our culture has shifted towards individuality and progressivism. "[i]Why care what a bully thinks? You're your own person, and they have nothing to lord over you.[/i]" A bully isn't a bully if you simply don't care about what they're making fun of you for. Bullying has been diminished, period, and calling me "blind" only furthers your own inability to see past your own school and nose. Good day, Shapeless

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