Simmering flames + max discipline + armementarium + stickey grenades + combustion melee + max intellect + Monte Carlo = best neutral game in Destiny.
Do you even Titan bro?
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Buy then you give up your super so it's not really part of your neutral game. People like to pretend it is but it's not. It's like saying weapons of light is part of defends neutral game.
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I see what you're saying, but people often save supers for optimal times. For instance, to attack a team during a heavy ammo drop, to defend a salvage capture, to be used after the enemy's super in Trials, etc. If you have your super already but are waiting for a time to maximize it's effectiveness, then faster grenade and melee charges are an amazing asset to a neutral game.
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Very good point, but then your giving up healing which due to the overnerfage of sunbreakers might has well be a necessity for double grenade recharge rate for what could very well be only 1 minute plus simmering flames kind of ducks because most people just use grenades recklessly when it's active because they think get them back fast enough.