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Edited by Marno:
1/14/2016 7:05:34 AM
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8:45 STFU! No spawning with special.
Agree with everything ells.
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Yes - NO spawning with special. Or if you do you get 4 rounds. Then green crates drop every two minutes . It's the special weapon meta and people are having special ammo 75-80% of the match. Primaries aren't primary.......
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Its a great idea. So annoying having sweaty lane sniping or rushing shotgunners right when the game starts
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It's not a bad idea, let the back of the map campers have to fight out in the open for it, there's always icebreaker and invective
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Ice breaker is year one. It's useless in iron banner and trials and I hate using shotguns. You think it's a good idea. I think it's a bad one. Let's just agree to disagree. lol
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Edited by Gu4rdi4n Down: 1/14/2016 11:11:55 AMIt's a 1 shot headshot in IB and trials... FACT only let down in trials is it can't res kill
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[quote]It's a 1 shot headshot in IB and trials... FACT only let down in trials is it can't res kill[/quote] It can't res snipe? It could Y1... Is it just the level difference?
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Edited by Gu4rdi4n Down: 1/14/2016 4:32:42 PMNever tried it myself just stuff I read on here regarding it res sniping in y2 trials, maybe possible on a low armour build.. Just had a quick google, it will 120 body shot in trials, but not powerful enough for res sniping though..
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That's weird. It's a 31 impact sniper - which is the minimum requirement for a res snipe. Hmmm it [i]must[/i] be a light level thing.
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Edited by Gu4rdi4n Down: 1/14/2016 4:44:08 PMLight level is only 170 max being Y1
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[quote]Light level is only 170 max being Y1[/quote] Right, but I thought damage was dependent on overall light. So a 320 equips icebreaker, and goes down to 305. Why can't a 305 with a 31 impact sniper res snipe?
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Because it's not only your overall light that counts but also the light (attack value) on the specific weapon that's taken into consideration.
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[quote]Because it's not only your overall light that counts but also the light (attack value) on the specific weapon that's taken into consideration.[/quote] Ah, thanks. I did not know that.
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Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3p52f3/light_levels_stats_and_how_they_affect_damage_in/
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There was a post on Reddit where someone equipped the same weapon with different attack values and had other gear to still have the same light. Weapons did different damage... If I find the link later I'll post it, it was quite interesting.
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That will reduce you light level considerably. FACT!
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Sure it does, but that's of little consequence when you are sniping from the back of the map unless you get rushed but that goes the same when using a Y2 sniper.
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Res killing is very important for trials. And I rarely ever camp with my sniper, unless it's trials.
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As it is, people... myself included, can casually go through the entire match and use nothing but special. I max out on special most games because of my playstyle, and I don't think that should be so easy to do. I hope you can appreciate that even though you take advantage of the current setup (I just say that because your PVP main has most kills by Sniper), that Secondary shouldn't be anyone's primary.
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Edited by Marno: 1/14/2016 6:35:40 PMAlso think about it this way. The reason I have more kills on my sniper, than my primary's, is because I don't really use shotguns, fusion rifles or side arms. So the reason I have so many kill's with a sniper, is because I never use anything ells. Where as primary's have been nerfed and un-nerfed so many times, that I've had to change my primary to suite the current meta. That's what it is mate. It's not that I'm using my sniper as my main weapon, it's because snipers are the only weapon I use as a secondary. If you add all my primary weapon kills up, they add up to more than what I have with my sniper.
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I do consider that, but I can tend to be pedantic as it is, so I'm happy to accept when my message is pointed out as not painting the whole picture. Gives me the chance to clarify. You ready...? Your Hunter gets about 3 kills by secondary to 4 kills by primary, if only considering those two groups. You do get more kills by primaries in general than by secondaries, and by a clear margin. ~2 of the 3 kills by secondary are from using a sniper rifle. But also consider that none of those kills are from sidearms. It's okay, I can't figure out how to even use them. I took advantage of a statistic to exaggerate a point. I think we're mostly in agreement. I don't think that starting with no special will fix anything any more than to reduce ammo spawns. I could suggest a randomized spawn, but that would add a lot of luck to the mix, maybe for the worse. One thing I know is the consistency of spawns allows for routes to be developed or a person to control an area and monopolize the spawn. I think these elements bug people the most, and they use the ammo to sway the game. I honestly collect it so my team gets it and the other doesn't.
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Yea, I think we do agree for the most part. I do love using a sniper though. I've made a montage that I'm trying to upload to Youtube, but, the damn thing keeps uploading in 320p and the quality is poor, even though it's been converted in HD and looks great on my pc. Randomized spawns does actually sound like a great idea, but I'm no game developer. I also collect every special crate I see, so the other side can't. lol
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Edited by Marno: 1/14/2016 6:21:59 PMI agree with the need for less special ammo in the games, but that should come in the form of less ammo crates spawning in. Say for trials. 1 special ammo crate on either side every 2nd or even 3rd round and not every 3 minutes, or whatever it's at now. Iron banner. More time between ammo crates. Spawning without special ammo is a bit extreme, imo. And I never knew my sniper had most kills. I thought it would stil be a hand cannon, tbh. lol
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I'm fine with whatever. I don't really care if everyone is running around with a special weapon instead of primary. People do though, and I understand the concern. Your HC kills are within 100 or two hundred kills of your snipers... so very close.
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Same here, tbh. lol I did explain why my sniper sniper kills are higher than my primary's in the above comment. It does make sense.
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