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12/23/2015 7:42:06 AM
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No, they went exactly far enough
You don't know how to properly use a super now that it isn't op, learn and get over it
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Just because we have lives aside from destiny, doesn't mean we are garbage. It just means you need to go outside bro.
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Relevant?
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Edited by King Cabb: 12/24/2015 5:08:51 AMThe thing is, all supers are OP. The HoS is just garbage now though. And just saying, but if your precious Warlock got nerfed, you'd be on here throwing a fit as well.
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The hammer got a nerf it needed to not be better than several other supers combined The warlock stormcaller has several drawbacks at the same time as benefits The Sunbreaker had no drawbacks Think with logic bud
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You also need to think with logic because now HoS has only drawbacls. Bungie can't nerf something right to save their lives. HoS went from the best to the worst. I know it was really OP, but they turned it into complete crap.
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Explain, without sounding like a jackass, exactly how it's "total crap" now
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How am I being a jackass? Hammers: -tracking is horrible -they die more easily (which is fine) -hammers have like no blast radius. Explosive Pyre is worthless -the melee barely ever registers (this is a bug) -hammer throws are so slow that any other super could hit you before your hammer hits them HoS is outclassed by every super now.
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Edited by XxWilson71xX: 12/24/2015 6:40:38 PMTracking is the only thing that I could even agree with But at the same time have you thought that it's only intended to be a like fusion grenade tracking and not like a rocket launcher? Explosive pyre is not supposed to give you seven nova bombs like it used to, it does maybe 75% of a fusion grenade now The bugger melee is irrelevant But in no way shape or form is it outclassed by [b][i][u]all[/u][/i][/b] other supers It's better than striker (pve/pvp), defender (pvp), blade dancer (pve,pve), gunslinger (pve), nightstalker (pvp), sunsinger (pve,pvp), voidwalker (pvp,pve) The only super that is as strong as it is in both pvp and pve is storm caller This is also why I think arc blade needs a damage buff so that hunters have a super that is good in both pvp and pve and not just one of those
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Sunbreaker is in no way better than Defender or Striker. A Defender with Armor of Light is impossible to kill as a Sunbreaker. FoH can absorb enough hammers before it's able to kill you instantly. Golden Gun can one shot a Sunbreaker before the hammer even reaches him. Bladedancer actually takes 2 hammers to kill sometimes and it has both a melee move and an AoE damage move. Sunbreaker's explosive pyre makes blast radius awful. The blast radius of a fusion grenade is horrid. Nightstalker completely shuts down any super. Nova Bomb can kill a Sunbreaker before it has the chance. Stormcaller is how you said it was. Sunsinger is the only the class that is potentially worse than Sunbreaker now. Also, the melee not registering is completely relevant. Sunbreakers have a melee that registers less than 50% of the time. What good is that? It might be like that for some other classes, I'm not sure, but it's bullcrap regardless.
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Agreed[spoiler]im a Titan[/spoiler][spoiler]don't want any more Titan nerfs xD lbs ):I [/spoiler]
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Wrong. Stuff doesn't work as it should. Splash damage is almost non existent. You can land a hammer at someone's feet and it doesn't kill them. They slowed down the hammers and tracking seems to do nothing, so once someone sees you coming they have a good chance of dodging the hammers. You can say "learn to aim", that's fine. I can aim my gun. I can aim nova bomb. I can aim gg. But hammers have an increased flight time now, so I can aim dead on and if someone moves a little they watch it go by. Tracking would normally help with that, but now hammers don't seem to track. If it isn't going to work, and everyone thinks it's fine, then they should replace it. It shouldn't be a useless node. Aside from all of that, the only constant complaints for sunbreakers were armor and cauterize. How is that before, people said an armor decrease and cool down on cauterize would be enough, but now, lethality takes a significant hit IN ADDITION TO the things people said, and it's perfect?
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Agreed. If they took away splash damage and tracking they should've given Titans the ability to aim hammers.
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Ya know what Today I was constantly getting 3-5 kills per super And I have only ever used it a few other times If I can do well with it without ever having really used it then there really is no issue You had 7 tracking nova bombs before Now you don't
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Congrats on that. You can get 3 to 5 kills with any super if played right. That doesn't mean they didn't go to far. When a hammer lands by your feet and you live, something is wrong. It explodes, it should kill you. But I see people walk away from that. Plus, it's a big difference in how you approach the play style. HoS shouldn't be a defensive super. It's assault based. But now you have to be near meticulous to get kills, and you have to be much more careful in pve too. It needed to be adjusted, and the armor stuff would have been OK. But all the stuff they did kind of stacks up. It was too much.
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Edited by XxWilson71xX: 12/23/2015 8:53:36 AMThe reason I even mentioned 3-5 kills at all is because I'm a very average player who doesn't play crucible as a Titan that much So by that logic someone who mains a Titan should be able to get a kill with all seven hammers no problem I have yet to experience any indication that they went too far with nerfing it
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I am so tired of you retards saying "but I'm an average player." Shut the hell up and accept that the hammers were hit way to hard. It doesn't mean that they are ever going to do anything about it, but there is no way it is even remotely as good as half of the other supers. I would literally trade it out right now for ANY of the other supers offered by the other classes.
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I've literally proved to you that they weren't nerfed too hard Sorry your thick skull can't comprehend
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How did you prove anything? All I have seen is a string of you pretending to be better at this game than other people.
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Honestly hammers are still good, just use with suncharge.
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"Pretending" You're so in denial that I could even possibly be right that it's scary
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Actually I'm just that sure that you are lying to make yourself seem credible.
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Lying about what exactly? And please tell my why I would even bother At this point you may as well be trolling me because nobody is this stupid
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I wish I were trolling you. But people like you who lie on these forums and pretend like they are better than everyone else is one of the reasons that we get a nerf every 3 weeks.
