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12/22/2015 9:00:07 PM
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I feel as if we have a Doctor Who fanboy amongst us that doesn't understand the full potential of Spartans
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  • Yu don't know the potential of the daleks

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  • Doctor Who is -blam!-ing trash but not even Precursors are on the same level as Daleks.

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  • [quote]Doctor Who is -blam!-ing trash but not even Precursors are on the same level as Daleks.[/quote] Precursors are 75 billion year old beings that are in apparel of death, because they simply continue existence in a different form. They created every natural law in the universe, and can change them as they see fit. The Precursors could simply think the Daleks from existence

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  • They were wiped out by the forerunners, they didn't create any laws, they can only manipulate them. Anything else?

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  • They weren't "wiped out". They were defeated, yes, but they just took on a different form, the Flood. As you stated, the Precursors can manipulate natural laws, which would include the matter. Precursors could simply destroy the matter Daleks are composed of.

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  • According to canon the Flood defeated the precursors. Period. There was never any mention of them "ascending" or anything of the sort. http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Reality_bomb

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  • [quote]They were not tied to any particular physical form, assuming any shape as they saw fit; they would allow themselves to die away and be evolved anew over and over again, taking on numerous incarnations both physical and immaterial.[/quote] [quote]a meta-technological mechanism known as neural physics, which enabled them to manipulate the fabric of the universe[/quote] [quote]A few Precursors escaped or were spared by the Forerunners. They either went into suspended animation or became molecular dust that was meant to eventually regenerate into their past forms. However, over millions of years the dust became defective, failing to reconstitute the Precursors and instead inducing madness and mutations in lifeforms that came in contact with it. This form would later be known as the Flood. Far from accepting failure and extinction, the Precursors viewed the Flood as a means to bring unity to the galaxy as well as punish the Forerunners for their insolence. Vowing that none of their creations would rise against them again, the Precursors decided that all life would be deprived of free will and merged into one; in the end, the sum of the Precursors' creation would be a reflection of themselves and the suffering their creations caused them.[/quote] [quote]Hidden within it was a large stasis capsule containing an ancient being whom they later named the Primordial. They transported the capsule and its captive to the human capital world of Charum Hakkor and found a way to communicate with the being, which claimed to be the last Precursor.[/quote] [quote]Around ten thousand years later, the IsoDidact interrogated the Primordial on Installation 07, receiving only vague responses as to the fate of the Precursors and their relationship with the Flood. Enraged, the IsoDidact then executed the being. The Primordial faced its end with calm satisfaction, stating that the Forerunners' defiance and, indeed, its own death through the artificial passing of a billion years within an accelerating chronological field, would only add up to the total "sweetness" of life's struggles while asserting its confidence that all life would still succumb to the Flood in the end.[15][9] The Ur-Didact later discovered that the Gravemind retained the thoughts and memories of the Primordial, demonstrating that they were one and the same.[/quote]

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  • Congratulations, you explained the birth of the flood. Which was also defeated by the forerunners and only survived thanks to Forerunners preserving them to study.

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  • Yeah, I did. It was meant to disprove your argument of "canonically, the Flood defeated the Precursors hurr durr". Also explains how the precursors are superior to the Daleks

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  • The forerunners defeated the flood. The humans defeated the flood. Daleks would have zero issues with the precursors.

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  • The Forerunners defeated the Flood because of the Halo Array. That was the only thing that allowed them to defeat them. The humans defeated the Flood because the Flood was contained on the Ark, which was mostly destroyed, and was no where near the strength it had against the Forerunners. And the Flood is almost a completely different entity when compared to the original Precursors. I doubt any evil race from any universe would have an easy time fighting God-like entities

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  • The precursors were beat by a Galactic scale weapon and you think they stand a chance against a race with a multiverse buster?

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  • The Precursors were not beat by the Halo Array, the Flood was. While the Flood and the Precursors are one-in-the-same, they are still fairly different. It is unknown how the Forerunners defeated the original Precursors, because, as is stated by Bornstellar, it should have been impossible. It makes you think

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  • (I may be wrong, I don't know anything about halo, but have a small knowledge of Doctor who,INCLUDING dalek's are killing machines) I'm pretty sure precursors are aliens, not spartans, we are talking about daleks vs Spartans. In an all out war it would be probably an even battle,but if one of each were locked in a room together. Spartans have a big reaction time, but would be unable to damage the dalek, so the Spartan can dodge for awhile,but the dalek would eventually adapt to the Spartans technique. After this, it's only a matter of time before the Spartan falls.

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  • The halo array was the only thing that could destroy precursor constructs.

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  • Yes, that is true. But when the Forerunners defeated the original Precursors, the Precursor constructs and artifacts were left intact

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  • It destroyed all the constructs within range, which included the Star Road.

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  • I know. But I don't think you do

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  • [quote]But I don't think you do[/quote] I just told you. It was said that afterwards [b][i]all[/i][/b] precursor constructs were destroyed.

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  • I think you are mixing up the Forerunners defeating the original Precursors and the Forerunners "defeating" the Flood. It is unknown how the Forerunners were able to defeat the Precursors after it was discovered that they were not the ones chosen to uphold The Mantle. How ever they achieved victory, it left the Precursor artifacts and star roads dormant, until they were reactivated by the Flood. When the Forerunners activated the Halo Array as a last-ditch effort to destroy the Flood, they also destroyed the Precursor tech in our galaxy, because they are based off of neural physics, meaning that they were affected by the Halos

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  • I'm not mistaking anything. The forerunners destroyed all precursor constructs and defeated the flood.

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  • [quote]I feel as if we have a Halo fanboy amongst us that doesn't understand the full potential of Daleks[/quote] Fixed

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  • I played halo when I had a 360, and I loved it, but Spartans have no chance even with Halo rings

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  • Edited by Oddball: 12/22/2015 9:30:33 PM
    That should be the other way around. There are too many Halo fans that don't understand the true capabilities of Daleks. In a fair fight, Spartans would get demolished.

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