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Edited by Britton:
10/30/2015 8:38:54 PM
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Bernie Sanders Plan would save America trillions
References present in infographic.
Edit: more info
[url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cepr.net/documents/ftt-facts-myths.pdf&ved=0CB8QFjABahUKEwjYuvKN0eDIAhWELYgKHct6A04&usg=AFQjCNGNKqcTunOabkyVE7jzdFm2wv9N0g&sig2=1ta9cD6PvdobptP8wfsg7g]discussion of a tax on speculation.[/url]
[url=http://www.pnhp.org/publications/united-states-national-health-care-act-hr-676]H.R. 676, healthcare bill[/url]
[url=http://www.pnhp.org/sites/default/files/Funding%20HR%20676_Friedman_7.31.13_proofed.pdf]Gerald Friedman, the source misrepresented in pieces saying Bernies plan will severly cost Americans more money, on how the healthcare portion will save us money. (PDF)[/url]
Also:
America is a form of social democracy with a regulated capitalist economy.
If the US were a purely capitalist society there would be no public schools, no Social security, no Medicare, no veterans administration, no workers comp, no park systems....not even public water systems.....you get the idea, nothing owned and operated by the citizens. Everything would be privately owned and operated by wealthy share holders and available on a fee for service basis and priced beyond the means of 25% of the population. That's what a pure Capitalist society would look like.
That's not what we have, but that's what the far right wants which is why they push to privatize everything.
We live in society with a regulated capitalist economy in which citizens, collectively, provide social services for fellow citizens through the democratically elected government. A Democratic Socialist form of government just like all the prosperous western societies.
The far right would have us believe that services provided by the government are somehow un-American when, in fact, the concept is enshrined in the preamble of the constitution:
[quote]"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, [b]promote the general Welfare[/b], and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."[/quote]
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Closed minded liberal hype in the chat please
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Then he'd give it to someone else because socialism.
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2 RepliesFree Ræp for everyone!!
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30 RepliesEdited by Tosevite 187: 10/29/2015 1:41:38 PMOk here goes: He wants socialized healthcare like Denmark. A few things: 1) equal treatment is not the best treatment - tons of Danes with Cancer actually fly to the US to be treated. 2) everyone doesn't have the same needs - a college athlete couldn't get a knee surgery done so he could play sports because that money could be better spent saving a young boys life 3) single payer system removes competition which leads to an increase in prices and a decrease in innovation 4) Denmark is going to go broke in the next 50 years at their current rate Free college: America is already in a shit ton of debt not sure how he can pull that off without taking 50-60% of Americans income like they do in Denmark Create jobs: These are temporary jobs that will cause a large unnecessary increase in gov spending for a short term decrease in unemployment that will serve no benefit or purpose 20 years from now Social security: Already so broke it wouldn't be able to pay for the majority of things promised to the generations on this site. So ya dump more money into it... More paid vacation and sick time: Not sure how he thinks you can double minimum wage AND pay people these wages for doing nothing AND expect companies not to lay off a good portion of their employees AND for not all small businesses to crumble under the higher costs I'll slowly expand this
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1 ReplySenator Armstrong's plan will save quadrillions. Armstrong for president 2020, he'll make America great again.
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5 RepliesHonestly I want Burnie to be elected because he seems like the most realistic politician I've seen in my short 21 years of life. He is definitely for the people. The problem I see with him getting in is the ignorance of the people he is trying to help. People want Donald Trump to be president because of his personality and his ability to run a business. But people don't seem to understand that the big businesses are the ones that are ruining the country. It's a very ironic situation if you ask me
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4 RepliesEdited by BOSSofNEWCASTLE: 10/29/2015 6:24:41 PMI'm guessing he'll raise.taxes on white people and give blacks free credit
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12 RepliesIf he or a democratic candidate gets elected, I'm moving out of America.
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33 Replies>Democrat >Saving money Choose one
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8 RepliesHAHAHAHA yes everything will be free!! That will work, not.
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3 RepliesSadly coporate america runs america
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1 ReplyIs he raising taxes on the rich? Cause didn't you already discuss in one of your threads that you don't encourage increased taxes on the rich due to everyone else suffering?
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Yeezy 4 Prez
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3 RepliesIt would also take money from hard working people and give it to lazy bums.
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2 RepliesITT: People ignoring the OP and bringing up the exact piece of information that was comprehensively disproved in said OP.
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1 ReplySo with all that money we build a wall to keep out the mexicans?
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If I was old enough I would vote
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12 RepliesWould literally rather vote for Hillary or Trump than have money taken away from rich people from this asshat
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3 RepliesHe will not be the the democratic nominee because he gave Hillary a pass on possibly her biggest vulnerability in their first debate.
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21 RepliesEdited by UndefeatdGaul: 10/29/2015 1:45:10 AMThe amount of completely moronic ignorant 15 year olds on this forum is truly pathetic. The CIA should make a kill list based on everybody dumb enough to agree with op
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1 ReplyHalf of those things are impossible and can not be done it is sad to see how fast people believe lies to be hip and liberal if anything socialism is dieing because most countries now are taking a capitalistic approach to things
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15 RepliesAlso 90% tax rate, expect a mass exodus of people with money
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12 RepliesEdited by ghettosquad: 10/25/2015 6:48:46 PMThe OP has gone full retard. Everything in the plan is pure speculation and note to self every time a government official projects something they are never ever ever close to target. The OP and people that believe in Bernie Sanders plan live in the land of make believe instead of reality. Every mathematical formula known to man has estimated at worse case his plan would raise our debt by $18,000,000,000 in the next 10 years. Here is a logical and factual debunking of the OP fairy tale. http://youtu.be/e-8spGrLrUM
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10 RepliesI hate that people say "Sanders is a Communists!" That's all I see in these threads. Can people please open their minds to new ideas? Even if you don't agree with them, educate yourself as to why. Thanks Britton
