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Edited by Jokercrew: 10/14/2015 5:52:31 AM
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PAY 2 WIN COMING SOON TO DESTINY!!!!

WE GOTTA KEEP THIS POST UP FAV BUMP COMMENT LETS GO Bump/Like this topic so it becomes trending. The more people see this the better, so we can all give our opinions here and let Bungie know we don't want these items being sold.[/b] Along with the addition of the Microtransactions today, if you visit the Eververse Trading Company Item Returns menu you can see "Consumable Items are nonreturnable". This means that Bungie WILL add consumable items soon to the store, even though there are none yet. Today, as well, added to the database armory with the patch, are the following consumables: List of Consumables to be sold from Eververse Trading Company soon: •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1281917992-heuristic-light]Heuristic Light[/url] - Buy additional moldering shards during the King's Fall Raid. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/2937851017-indomitable-light]Indomitable Light[/url] - Buy more likelihood for armor and weapon drops during a normal mode King's Fall raid. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/3004954978-valorous-light]Valorous Light[/url] - Buy more likelihood for armor and weapon drops during a hard mode King's Fall raid. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1524965721-hunter-level-25-starter-pack]Hunter Level 25 Starter Pack[/url] - Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/2941899280-warlock-level-25-starter-pack]Warlock Level 25 Starter Pack[/url] - Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/592011859-titan-level-25-starter-pack]Titan Level 25 Starter Pack[/url] - Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/2488251899-subclass-infusion]Subclass Infusion[/url] - Buy a fully leveled subclass instantly (Fully upgrades your currently equipped subclass) •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1053112404-bone-trinkets]Bone Trinkets[/url] - Buy Increased XP Gains from The Fallen for 10 minutes •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/3348846756-void-shackles]Void Shackles[/url] - Buy Increased XP Gains from Hive for 10 minutes •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/199830403-spent-displacer]Spent Displacer[/url] - Buy Increased XP Gains from Vex for 10 minutes •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/2111706071-campaign-medals]Campaign Medals[/url] - Buy Increased XP Gains from Cabal for 10 minutes [i]We don't know what the chances will be if you use these buffs to obtain extra raid armor and weapons but expect they will be absolutely unfair, otherwise there would be no reason to buy them. I wouldn't buy extra raid armor chance if I didn't notice significant changes, for example. I pretty much get moldering shards every single checkpoint right now, likely on purpose so they can sell these things. Expect the XP buffs will also be downright unfair as well.[/i] ----- How we know these will be sold from the Eververse Trading Company: [spoiler]A "Starter Pack" is not something you obtain to begin with. Usually with that connotation it's bought, but regardless, the starter pack leads you to level 25, the same level a Spark of Light gives you. Spark of Lights still exist and are in the database, untouched. You only get one during the Taken King purchase, although these Starter Packs will likely have to be bought if you want to fully level another character in the same way, with even more benefits. It's extremely unlikely you obtain this and if it's Bungie's interest to already give you a Spark of Light with a $40 TTK purchase, you shouldn't trust them not to sell them with additional benefits. I'm not going to beat around the bush, there COULD possibly be ways to obtain heuristic light, valorous light, and indomitable light. Those consumables increase your likelihood for drops in the Raid, be it normal or hard. Although, the fact these, and along with the XP boosts such as Campaign Medals (which increase Cabal XP gains for 10 minutes) were all released together in the armory on the same day WITH the much more obvious "starter packs" leads me and anyone with common sense to believe these are part of the same principal and are to be sold as well.[/spoiler] "Ha, you call this Pay to Win?! This isn't pay to win. It's just buying additional raid armor and weapons, subclass upgrades and xp boosts. That's not pay to win. Stupid." : [spoiler]If you honestly think this isn't pay-to-win or that Eververse Trading Company products won't get worse with time, you're an idiot. Not even going to bother arguing with these people.[/spoiler] Take a moment to really think about whether or not you want to invest your time into this game any further, as this is a 10 year game and I really doubt the microtransactions will get less egregious than what's already put into the database and soon to be released into the game. The slippery slope isn't only slippery, it's -blam!-ing wet. Already. Now all of you understand why the forums were condemning micro transactions. This SHIT ruins games. I won't stand for this. If this gets sold, I am quitting. I have 2,700+ hours of gameplay invested and have been playing since Day 1 with over 7,000 Crucible games across my characters. Do I care about my progress? Absolutely. Does Bungie care enough to not undermine everything I've done? No they don't. Clearly. So goodbye Destiny, if these micro transactions get added. It will only get worse with the next 10 years ahead! Edit 1: WE GOTTA SPREAD THIS BUMP LIKE Plz nerf bungie Edit 2: so hey guys how many Xbox/psn cards are you guys gonna buy tonight?

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  • I was once u, then I read weekly update and felt like an ass. The consumables u see in tracker aren't new they have been there for a while. What happened was bungie was doing testing for items that zur would sell as consumables for strange coins but decided that it wasn't working as Intended and took them out of them game. But what ever they test they have to put online so that's how they appeared and how everyone completely overreacted :(.

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  • Read the weekly update. Myth busted.

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    • For -blam!- sake.... anything we petition never works unless it's something simple like vault space.. and oh yeah that took months

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    • They said it was something xur was gonna sell. If it's stuff that invokes recent events such as the king's fall raid, than that couldn't be true. Plus I didn't believe them anyways.

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      • Ok

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        • People mute each other all the time but I never do it because I don't see the point but I am muting you because you are a complete stupid, ignorant person

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          • They already disproved this

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            • Moron. They said they were old data and were scrapped for the TTK. This game is not going to be pay-to-win.

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            • Update this thread with the correct information. You are spreading lies at this point!

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              • I stopped playing after the dark below. I mean even at that point it was easy to see in what kind of company bungie turned. There are going to be more and more features to buy with real money, if you look at the game there are so many possibilitys for micro transactions. Its like the whole game was designed around it. But because of some major flaws of the game they didnt had the guts to release these micro transactions from day 1. but lets wait a few months and we will see how greedy they really are.

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              • Where is the candy for the death singers impenetrable shield?!

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              • If this ever happens I'll just go play something else lmao

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              • I just see shit for lazy bitches and ways to combat RNGesus. Not really pay2win, yet.

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              • Bump

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              • Yeah this is ok.. I don't mind these kind of consumables.. Just don't make a year two gally buy able with silver.. Then that will be a pay to win.. Please don't go down that rout

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              • It's not pay to win imo, it's just for people who don't have time to grind. If they sold gear it would be a different, that would be pay to win.

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              • This is a dream come true, I will buy it all

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                • [quote]Couple things: The Valorous/Heuristic/Indomitable Light were Three of Coins-like buffs sold by the Speaker for Motes+Planetary Materials (I honestly don't remember exactly what they cost, [but it was never Silver] I can't keep the entire economy in my head) but for a variety of bug-related reasons they were removed. They were also - as has been pointed out - in the data files before TTK shipped. [/quote]Direct Quote from TTK Head; Luke Smith

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                • Remember guys, activision makes almost ALL games they publish have micro-transactions, and guess what? We at least had a year before they added it to this game, if you're seriously mad about it and want to whine to Bungie just know, what Activision says goes. Like Bungie said THEY won't introduce pay to win, but if Activision says so it happens. Contracts and legal bindings and other intelligent things here. #EvilEmpireActivision

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                  • On my way to burn the disc yet again.

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                    • I already pretty much quit i havent play this shit in about 2 weeks, gonna try to get a refund on ttk so it doesnt feel like i wasted money.

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                    • Like I mentioned in the other post. Once those go live I am done with this game.

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                      • This is stupid Luke smith has already tweeted about this they aren't doing pay 2 win

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                        • Edited by Deleted: 10/14/2015 2:39:14 PM
                          [b]OCTOBER 31, 2013[/b] [i]"We’ve not announced anything on the microtransaction front but our goal is to absolutely make sure that when we deliver a game for $60 that’s a great experience no matter what type of player you are," he said. "So we’re not looking at any pay-for-power type stuff. That’s what I hear as a player when people say they’re worried about models and schemes that nickel and dime people; we’re not going to do that."[/i] Second to last paragraph.... http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/10/31/destiny-devs-talk-space-travel-pc-and-microtransactions

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                        • If this really is true the fun of the game will get ruined because to buy urself raid stuff to get to a higher light. It will ruin the fun out of the raids and the exciting loot drops you just wanna see to get. I know sometimes you are not happy with what you get but it was still exciting to see what you got. Stuff that has a high light and are good are supposed to be rare so people want to hunt for them. Anyway this is all I got to say. Peace!

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