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Edited by Darkling971:
10/9/2015 12:56:14 AM
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For Everyone Saying the Sleeper is Underpowered
So the community has appeared to have a fairly negative reaction to the Sleeper. I won't deny that the quest was simplistic and easy at best, but the weapon itself really shines. Lets look at some numbers:
Black Spindle, which is considered one of the best single-target damage dealers, does ~76k per shot on Golgoroth. The Sleeper does ~155k per shot. The fire rate of the Sleeper is about 2/5 that of the Spindle (excluding reload). This is the equivalent of ~69k damage per 76k damage from spindle.
What this means is that the Sleeper rivals one of the BEST SINGLE TARGET WEAPONS IN THE GAME, albiet with a single reload. However, the sleeper is a lot more versatile, as it doesn't require 3 rapid precision shots to maintain dps.
TL:DR Sleeper is a pretty damn good weapon.
Edit: For those pointing out that the Sleeper has only 7 shots, this thread is comparing dps, not total damage. Various other factors come into play at that point.
Edit: Aaand my first thread ever is trending. Damn.
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I just think it needs more reserve ammo. Like 15 total shot or something, it'd be worth the exotic slot then
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1 ReplyEveryone wanted the sleeper to be on par with prenerf gally because they need a damn crutch 24/7 the sleeper is decent and I'm glad there isn't a god gun yet it actually adds some diversity this year
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6 RepliesIt's not underpowered, it's just that people (probably that need a crutch) started some insane rumor that it was the year 2 Ghorn. So of course when they got the gun, they automatically assumed this would be the case, and it wasn't. As soon as people saw that it wasn't a year 2 ghorn, the hate spewed forth. The gun is great, but it's not so powerful that it becomes the only gun you will ever have equipped. Persoanlly I like that. I like being able to say I'm going to use red death, or hereafter, or any other exotic, without thinking "oh, but if I unequip my sleeper, people will yell at me because it makes the raid easier", which was the case with ghorn. It wasn't necessary to have ghorn to beat bosses in year 1, but it made shit so easy, why wouldn't you use it? I'm glad ghorn is buried, and I'm glad that the sleeper is at the power level that it is.
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Used it last night in the raid and black spindle was doing was more damage against golgoroth and the war priest. I would much rather have bolt caster equipped then sleeper stimulant
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Sleeper simulant is good. Nothing however will be like gjallarhorn was ever again. People just need to get over it.
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Ahhh love this thread
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One fact remains. Sleeper is a -blam - ing heavy weapon.
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Why is everyone freaking out about ammo count? It does what the ghorn did last year every shot. Ghorn only had 7 rounds with the right gear. SS can have 9.
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So what ever it was a looooooooooooong wait
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5 RepliesEdited by Fatgull: 10/9/2015 1:08:41 PM[i]This post shall forever be a reminder that one should never go full retard.[/i]
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Yes but take into account that -it can hold far less ammo -it is a [i]heavy weapon[/i]
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247 RepliesEdited by Ghost J34: 10/8/2015 11:19:03 PMIf you're ever using anything other than Spindle on Warpriest or Golgoroth, you're doing it wrong. Edit: Another day, another reply filled with morons and rustled jimmies. Never gets old.
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5 RepliesWhy does everyone think the SS is complete??? Read the description for the love of God people.
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If you keep tapping the charge trigger you can make a nice little beat. I like that.
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16 RepliesIt hits 595 in fcking pvp, who are the idiots saying it's underpowered o.O.
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4 Repliessleeper can only hold 7 rounds?
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9 RepliesI know I'm looking forward to 1 shottin them damn wizards looking over the centre pedestal in the glyph room.
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i think its a lot of fun to use, and once i figure out how to use the bouncing projectiles to its full potential it could be quite powerful. the trick might be to use it in small rooms to get the most use of its projectiles.
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2 RepliesEdited by HODGE2G: 10/9/2015 9:48:23 AMMy two cents (also wrote in response to somebody else). This thing was "claimed' to replace the Gally. Why are we comparing it to snipers and ToM then? Why wasn't people comparing the Gally with snipers like they are doing with the SS? The Gjallarhorn didn't have ToM and black spindle to compete with for an exotic slot. If anything I paired my Black hammer with my Gally for the most effective damage in all situations. Can't do that now since it basically takes up a exotic slot. If you had a year 2 Gally (pre nerfed), would you use it with it's 7 rockets over your ToM on the War Priest, Daughters, and Oryx? The fact that we can't do an honest comparison with the SS and a current Gally makes it hard to determine a true DPS of both weapons. They are Heavy Exotics from two different generations (Year 1 and Year 2). Comparing now, would be like asking who would win in a fight between Tyson and Ali. At this point we will never find out.
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Edited by MrScoot: 10/9/2015 9:46:53 AMI think it's good, it's just the recoil, aim, and ammo that are horrible....
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Edited by TitanFur: 10/9/2015 9:24:49 AMI don't think it's underpowered, more being underwhelming. Bungie made it out to be this great exotic heavy when it's more of an ok one. In my opinion, one of the reasons for this is its exotic perk. Every one already has experience with how successful ricochet rounds are with the Hardlight. I was lucky to get a kill spraying around a corner with the Hardlight, so Bungie's expectation/ thought that a Fusion Rifle rail gun hybrid would be useful to have rounds that bounced off wall is silly. What would have made it a great and fun exotic is if after the second enemy a round penetrated, the next enemy/object it comes into contact with causes the round to explode. That would have made the Sleeper Stimulant very useful in portions of raids with lots of adds.
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I will never let my spindle go!!
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Was doing court trying for auto rifle for quest and it did alot of damge to the bosses so wonder how much better 300+ and upgrade it is.
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Do you have any evidence of your claim? Facts, variables, trials etc. I guess I'll just assume everything I read on the Internet is correct.
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A lil tip incase people didn't know equip armour that gives you the extra heavy ammo on the ss and take the armour back off you still keep the extra 2 bullets :)
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Definitely would be nice when I run out of special in golgoroth(yes I use the raid sniper as I don't have the black spindle)
