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9/29/2015 8:32:31 PM
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I get that it's a very vague trailer with his death, but it's a pretty stupid one on 343's part. Many players aren't crazy into it like us on forums. So they probably do think he's dead.
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I didn't really pay much attention to what happened in 4 but chief is too lucky to die from building ruble. I mean worst case scenario his hud is shut off.
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I don't believe he's dead and if 343 did show us his death in a trailer I've lost all faith in their storytelling capability.
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Yea again he's too lucky to die. Especially from building ruble.
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That is the point.
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Chief has been a huge anchor and appeal to the Halo series as a whole. He's a reason that many people play. When you think of Halo it's very easy to come to John--117. People who aren't hunting the truth religiously as some for hard fans are, are going to be pissed and might stay away from the game. Especially if they didn't play 4. It's interesting to me, but not to the ones who haven't stayed with it.
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I would argue the opposite. The ad was meant to grab interest from casual fans. 343i is not concerned with "hardcore" fans at this point. Those people have already decided whether or not to purchase the game. Seeing that chief is dead is designed to trigger a curiosity response from the most casual of fans. Nobody who is a casual fan cares enough to get mad over something so silly, or even if they are, Halo 5 will become relevant to them. Even if this period of interest is relatively short, the ad was successful.
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Edited by Higgy-Doc: 9/30/2015 3:02:50 AMThe hundreds of comments showing anger and remorse about his death speak otherwise. Some casual gamers may believe that he seriously is dead. It's a pretty specific ad and I don't think the timing was right. If it does tie into Hunt the truth than that's great, but casual fans won't know this. They may literally think he is dead and out of the franchise. Which isn't a very good selling point if you haven't played 4 or don't know what's going on. I do see your points though. I would imagine it could work both ways.
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You mean hundreds of a comments from a section of the population that already renders your argument invalid? This ad was for the people who do not follow anything. This ad drives interest in uninterested populations. Youtube comments (assuming to that is what you are referring) represent a population that is already more engaged than the casual fan. If you sought out the trailer to watch, it was not intended for you on a marketing basis. They already have those people by the balls. There is a reason this was a TV ad, and isn't because 343i knows that Halo fans love Basketball(or whatever sport this debuted during). The people who are angry or sad are the people who will continue to follow the marketing. They are already convinced. You are putting too much faith into chief as a character. Most people play Halo because it is fun and has decent mechanics, not because they care about a damn near silent protagonist in a lackluster narrative.
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I don't know man. There were plenty of people who didn't like Reach because it lacked the Chief. Which I found silly, but still. I agree with you about peaking interest. I suppose I can see (putting my fandom aside) how this would attract the casual fan. What about the individuals who haven't really been involved since, say, Halo 3? Don't you think that they would just see this as Chief's death? Or let's say you played Halo 4 and you haven't followed this marketing campaign at all, then you see this as your first trailer. It's easy to see too, it's all over social media, YouTube, as well as the sports game (whatever it was). Don't you think those individuals would be confused as hell? Even lead on to think that Chief might not be in the game?
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Edited by RJ956: 9/30/2015 3:28:45 AMNothing this trailer shows relies on knowledge of Halo 4 or any of the other media. The point of this trailer is confusion. You see Chief dead, that immediately gets you to thinking about how, who, why, when, and where even if you are a casual fan. That is the design of this particular trailer. When you are confused, you think. When you think, you generate emotion. Those emotions get you to buy Halo 5 on launch week. Simple as that. Pertaining to Reach, while this is entirely experiential in nature, every single person who I know played Reach was a casual fan enjoyed Reach. They did not care about the Chief. They cared about gameplay and the presented narrative, not whether or not an important character in the series was in it. Also, that social media exposure relies on you following certain channels or people. YouTube does not matter due to reasoning in my last post. Don't get me wrong, this is for people to see, but it is designed to elicit a certain response. It has been very successful in doing so.
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Alright brah I can feel dat. Good points, good points. [spoiler]think he's gonna die in this one for real?[/spoiler]
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No idea. I have not been following the marketing very closely. I like what 343i is doing narratively and gameplay wise, but we will see how it pans out on 10/27. Personally, I think the death of Chief could be a massive chance for the series to become truly relevant again and open up to diversification in narrative focus. But again, we shall see 10/27.
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True.
