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9/1/2015 9:03:50 PM
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Neat. But as for the game itself, my hype is low. Almost entirely because of two reasons: 1. Multiplayer achievements that 343 seems so intent on throwing into their games that irritate the hell out of me. Or SLASO shit- get that shit out of here. 2. Making Chief a bad guy? I swear if this game ends with the Chief still being villianized, I'm going to be furious.
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  • I don't think 343 are stupid enough to try and make an army of diehard fans dislike the chief. That's a death sentence

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  • QQ

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  • Two non important thing on which one isn't even true and the other is to attract the casual audience to buy the game.

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  • Two very important things, both of which are true and the other is still shitty regardless of whatever reason you want to slap onto it post-facto.

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  • They are hunting Chief because went AWOL. Locke is merely meant to bring him home, however I think he's gonna be a little bitch about it.

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  • pls don't sey that

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  • So your hype is low due to the achievements on an entirely different game and your belief in a false plot-point. Ok.

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  • Calm your tits. My hype is low because it sounds like they are hunting the Chief which is shitty, and something else based on that company's history. Now I guess I have to add 'rude community' to that list too though, which is unfortunate.

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  • Edited by Mr Admirals7044: 9/2/2015 12:28:13 AM
    [quote]Calm your tits.[/quote]Don't worry. My tits are calm and thoroughly under control. [quote]it sounds like they are hunting the Chief[/quote]Right, but under what context? [quote]something else based on that company's history[/quote]In regards to the multiplayer achievements, they're really not that hard. It's mainly a matter of just playing the game a lot. Nothing ridiculously specific like: "Get a double kill with a single Spartan Laser shot on free-for-all Slayer. [quote]Now I guess I have to add 'rude community' to that list too though, which is unfortunate.[/quote]As if this is going to make me feel bad. That's a blatant and gross generalization and I know you're not ignorant. Plus, it also implies that we haven't had conversations with each other over the course of 3+ years now. Your word choice even implies you no longer consider yourself a part of the Halo community. Well, that's interesting and truthfully disappointing.

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  • [quote]Don't worry. My tits are calm and thoroughly under control. [/quote]So you [i]meant[/i] to be rude, then? That is interesting... and it really is disappointing. [quote]Right, but under what context? [/quote]It doesn't matter. He's being hunted to be brought back, yes? He's the 'target.' And we have a trailer talking about all the 'destruction he hath wrought.' It's shitty. [quote]In regards to the multiplayer achievements, they're really not that hard. It's mainly a matter of just playing the game a lot. Nothing ridiculously specific like: "Get a double kill with a single Spartan Laser shot on free-for-all Slayer.[/quote]They've had ones such as 'get a triple kill with x weapon on x map' and 'kill right after being in a mancannon while still in the air on x map' and all kinds of bullshit. They have a terrible track record with achievements. [quote]As if this is going to make me feel bad. [/quote]I had hoped it would at the very least make you reconsider your attitude to somebody just because they weren't as excited about a game as you were. [quote]Your word choice even implies you no longer consider yourself a part of the Halo community. Well, that's interesting and truthfully disappointing.[/quote]I've never been 'that' into multiplayer of Halo. I only play for the story, and because I have friends that play. The only redeeming aspect of Halo multiplayer for me has been custom games, Action Sack and, most importantly- BUNGLE. So when another company takes over a series and I find great disappointment in the only part of the series I actually care about (and yes- I definitely care about the story, sure), then I can't help but draw myself away from it. Then again, Destiny doesn't have custom games. So it's not like I really have a home in Destiny, either. I'm more of a free-floater now since both companies have screwed up in my eyes. Alas.

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  • [quote]So you meant to be rude, then? That is interesting... and it really is disappointing. [/quote]No...? Maybe you're reading way too much malice into my post because I just meant for it to be more jokey than anything. I can't really stop you for not being hyped for the game, nor can I stop you from being disappointed in me. [quote]It doesn't matter. He's being hunted to be brought back, yes? He's the 'target.' And we have a trailer talking about all the 'destruction he hath wrought.' It's shitty. [/quote]It seems silly to me to be taking what Locke is saying at face value and to believe it entirely when there's another trailer which is the other side of the coin portraying Locke as the antagonist. Plus, the entire tagline for Halo 5's marketing campaign is "Hunt the Truth". I don't think I really need to elaborate on what that should tell the consumer. [quote]They've had ones such as 'get a triple kill with x weapon on x map' and 'kill right after being in a mancannon while still in the air on x map' and all kinds of bullshit. They have a terrible track record with achievements. [/quote]Ah. I thought you were solely talking about the MCC. [quote]I had hoped it would at the very least make you reconsider your attitude to somebody just because they weren't as excited about a game as you were.[/quote]That would mean the entire motivation of me posting was out of irritation/anger that you weren't excited by the trailer like I was. Which isn't the case. 1. The trailer didn't excite me other than getting a look at a new part of Halo 5 2. Your lack of hype is of no concern to me. Halo fans have every right to be skeptical of Halo 5 However, the reasons you listed for no being hyped, I truthfully found them to be silly and somewhat illogical. But perhaps you just didn't word your post well enough for me to understand. The more we talk, the more I empathize and understand. I also want to clarify a part of my last post. My comment about being disappointed at you not considering yourself a Halo fan, I didn't mean to make it sound like I was disappointed [i]in[/i] you. More that I am sad you have drifted away from the community. You obviously are not obliged to be a Halo fan in anyway, and if you're done with it, then you're done.

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  • [quote]It seems silly to me to be taking what Locke is saying at face value and to believe it entirely when there's another trailer which is the other side of the coin portraying Locke as the antagonist. Plus, the entire tagline for Halo 5's marketing campaign is "Hunt the Truth". I don't think I really need to elaborate on what that should tell the consumer.[/quote]No, no. The point isn't that 'I' think Chief is the bad guy. The point is that they are treating half the campaign as if he were. Yes, 'hunt the truth.' They are hunting the Chief. That's great that the Chief is the protagonist half the story. Wonderful. The problem is that he is actually an [i]antagonist[/i] against people that should be on his side. It's shitty. They did the whole 'Halsey is evil' thing too and that was equally shitty. The whole thing is just shitty. [quote]Ah. I thought you were solely talking about the MCC. [/quote]Oh. Nah. In MCC, while I only have like 1/10th of the achievements, the only ridiculous ones I see off the bat are LASO ones and 'get a bazillion enemies.' Halo 4 had wickedly bad ones, and the end of Halo: Reach's lifespan had horrible ones as well. Multiplayer achievements are just the worst, bar none. [quote]You obviously are not obliged to be a Halo fan in anyway, and if you're done with it, then you're done.[/quote]I'm a Halo fan- don't get me wrong. I care about the story, like I've been saying. But I'm thoroughly disappointed in the direction some things have taken, and since I don't care about any other aspect of the game at all anymore, it means I'm not very excited for the next game. I mean hell, I even bought the vinyl for Halo 4's soundtrack when it came out- I've given them my time, money, and chances. But they kind of broke me. So I'll buy Halo 5- just the base version- for the story. But these days, I'm just leaving it at that.

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  • [quote]No, no. The point isn't that 'I' think Chief is the bad guy. The point is that they are treating half the campaign as if he were. Yes, 'hunt the truth.' They are hunting the Chief. That's great that the Chief is the protagonist half the story. Wonderful. [u][b]The problem is that he is actually an antagonist against people that should be on his side.[/b][/u][/quote]You appear to have information the rest of us don't have access to. Everyone else's understanding of Halo 5's plot who have been following everything released thus far is this: 1. First Mission - Humanity is under attack; Osiris is sent in to retrieve Halsey who knows information regarding the attacks 2. Second Mission - On a covert op, Blue Team encounters Cortana who foreshadows catastrophic events; Blue Team elects to go AWOL to combat these issues directly 3. Unknown Cutscene - Halsey is informed of Chief's disappearance and comments that Cortana is a threat 4. Fireteam Osiris is sent to hunt down and find Blue Team and bring them back to the UNSC 5. Unknown cutscene - Buck expresses his feelings about their mission, telling Locke he has reservations about the mission, in which Locke reveals he does to 5. Halfway through the game Fireteam Osiris' mission changes 6. Battle of Sunaion - Fireteam Osiris is in pursuit of Chief; Osiris does not refer to Chief in any hostile manner [quote]It's shitty. They did the whole 'Halsey is evil' thing too and that was equally shitty. The whole thing is just shitty.[/quote]Saying "It's shitty" doesn't really convey anything of value.

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  • [quote]You appear to have information the rest of us don't have access to. [/quote]Is Locke's team not hunting the Chief then? Not trying to be difficult, but as soon as I saw the rest of your post contained spoilers I stopped reading. Please don't go into specifics. Anyways, there's a whole trailer dedicated to how the Chief brought 'ruin' to wherever that place was, and overall they're giving the impression that the Chief is being hunted against the UNSC's wishes and unbeknownst to them. The fact that the Chief is being treated like a threat, if not as a hostile, is shitty and makes me think the story is going in a very bad direction. [quote]Saying "It's shitty" doesn't really convey anything of value.[/quote]Yes it does. It shows that it is, as a whole, really, really, [i]really[/i] shitty.

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  • [quote]Is Locke's team not hunting the Chief then?[/quote]They are, but their mission isn't to kill him. [quote]Anyways, there's a whole trailer dedicated to how the Chief brought 'ruin' to wherever that place was, and overall they're giving the impression that the Chief is being hunted against the UNSC's wishes and unbeknownst to them. The fact that the Chief is being treated like a threat, if not as a hostile, is shitty and makes me think the story is going in a very bad direction.[/quote][url=https://youtu.be/F5TajpGn0tU?t=1m15s]I want to show you something.[/url] (It's not spoilers, I promise; just 343i talking about the trailers)

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  • [quote]They are, but their mission isn't to kill him.[/quote]Capturing would be sad, too. Basically if they're finding him to do anything other than talk to him or beg him for his help because he's so much cooler and better than they are, that's a serious bummer. [quote]I want to show you something. (It's not spoilers, I promise; just 343i talking about the trailers)[/quote]It's a neat video. I always love that kind of thing- see the iterations parts of the game go through. A shame the part at the part you cut to where the guy went 'is master chief a traitor' and stuff didn't actually get answered though. Kind of upset me even more, haha. Plus, they're bringing up that people think he's being portrayed as a traitor themselves! That whole 'traitor' thing is what I'm disliking. First Halsey, now Chief. I didn't like it with Halsey but I dealt with it... but if it happens to Chief... *single tear runs down face*

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  • [quote]It's a neat video. I always love that kind of thing- see the iterations parts of the game go through. A shame the part at the part you cut to where the guy went 'is master chief a traitor' and stuff didn't actually get answered though. Kind of upset me even more, haha. Plus, they're bringing up that people think he's being portrayed as a traitor themselves! That whole 'traitor' thing is what I'm disliking. First Halsey, now Chief. I didn't like it with Halsey but I dealt with it... but if it happens to Chief... *single tear runs down face*[/quote]With Halsey though, there was an element of realism there, even if it wasn't executed like fans expected. However, the point of me linking you to that part was to show you that your reaction is literally what 343i wanted. Anyway, I don't really know what else to say though, because you don't want much spoiled (which by the way, the stuff you skipped over was stuff that 343i released and wasn't leaked) and I respect that.

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  • [QUOTE]Anyway, I don't really know what else to say though, because you don't want much spoiled[/QUOTE]Fair enough. When it releases in... November, is it? When it releases, I hope my expectations are far exceeded. I really do.

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  • October 27th actually.

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  • Chief has been confirmed to not be a villain. Not traditionally. He's merely gone AWOL and Locke has been sent to find him and learn why he left. Where that dynamic goes after the start of the game is unknown. But he certainly isn't a bad guy.

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  • Edited by UncleDaddy: 9/1/2015 9:07:40 PM
    Looks like someone is salty they can't do halo LASO. Also, Bungie had multiplayer achievements in their Halo's too, so there's that.

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  • Edited by burritosenior: 9/1/2015 9:26:26 PM
    [quote]Looks like someone is salty they can't do halo LASO.[/quote]Maybe I could- I dunno. I've soloed the games on Legendary. But I have zero desire to even attempt LASO. It doesn't sound fun so it irritates me that they put MCC achievements for it. [quote] Also, Bungie had multiplayer achievements in their Halo's too, so there's that.[/quote]Yeah, those are super sucky, too. 343 just made it worse than Bungie though by making so many of them map specific. Really made the last couple DLCs suck. To this day I'm still missing I think 3 Halo: Reach achievements simply because I can never get the map-gametype combination... ever. It's just frustrating. So I hate that kind of thing.

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