Gjallarhorn didn't break the game. Bungie broke it by making everything a bullet sponge so using Gjallarhorn just felt like a freaking normal boss fight should be.

Gjallarhorn isn't broken but makes bullet sponges feel like a normal boss fight? I think your argument is a little broken. Look, I'm not defending bullet sponges. I'm stating that OP is spot on about the exotics that aren't coming forward. For one, Gjallarhorn isn't going anywhere, it's being repurposed. It's now a level 20 exotic that newer players can use on their way to the higher levels. It'll still be usable for all year 1 content. Heck even Thorn (unfortunately) will survive because year 1 guns can be used in standard crucible. Iron Banner, however, not so much. And they might... [b][i]MIGHT[/i][/b].... bring the other exotics forward at a later time.

Got a little brown on your nose there mate. And no, new players will just start TTK at level 25. And become level 40 without even touching year 1 content. Bungie is just trying to erase year 1 and all our progress. They are even removing grimoire score from your emblem so newbies don't feel left out. Every single strike boss except Taniks is a bullet sponge. So yeah, 4th Horseman or Gjallarhorn made them enjoyable...that's not flawed, that's just legit truth. Then to top it off, Bungie nerfs 3 of the best PvE weapons, Blackhammer, Ice Breaker and Gjallarhorn, while at the same time making sure they can't ascend to year 2, just as a final screw you to all year 1 guardians. [b] But start fresh. It's a new beginning and we've nerfed all year 1 weapons to an attack rating so far below TTK content you won't even be able to use them at all. Eyes up guardian (in Nolan Norths voice).[/b]

[quote]Got a little brown on your nose there mate.[/quote]Scathing. [quote]And no, new players will just start TTK at level 25. And become level 40 without even touching year 1 content.[/quote]That's a lot of levels you skipped over there. Not to mention that it only applies to one character. Sure, I guess you could rock a Khvostov to 40. [quote]Bungie is just trying to erase year 1 and all our progress.[/quote]If you ask me, I think they're working with the Boogeyman. They're totally out to get you.[quote]They are even removing grimoire score from your emblem so newbies don't feel left out.[/quote]You really think people will stop judging Grimoire because they have to spec your character now instead? Unlikely.[quote]Every single strike boss except Taniks is a bullet sponge.[/quote]To which bullet sponge do you refer, Valus or Skolas? Both of which had health nerfs. List another. [quote]So yeah, 4th Horseman or Gjallarhorn made them enjoyable...that's not flawed, that's just legit truth. Then to top it off, Bungie nerfs 3 of the best PvE weapons, Blackhammer, Ice Breaker and Gjallarhorn, while at the same time making sure they can't ascend to year 2, just as a final screw you to all year 1 guardians.[/quote]Never said these weapons weren't fun or that your logic is flawed in using them. But when one gun becomes the only logical choice, there's an issue.

No you're wrong on all accounts, and Skolas isn't a strike boss, and he also didn't get a "nerf". They removed the burns and dropped his health (supposedly) but It now takes way longer to kill him anyway and is an extremely frustrating, annoying POS boss fight with terrible rewards. I actually wasn't able to kill him on Arc burn week. But did Void, Solar, light switch...altogether like ~18 or so times. Terrible, horrid fight. We don't run it anymore because it sucks so hard, not because we can't. It's just not fun.

I missed the word strike. Thought you meant all bosses. Apologies. [quote]both of which had [b]health[/b] nerfs.[/quote][quote]They removed the burns and dropped his [b]health[/b] (supposedly)[/quote]This is the nerf I meant. Anyway, we're now very far from my original point. Not all exotics are coming forward. Some need to be retuned/removed (Thorn/Gjallarhorn), others have been inexplicably removed, such as hardlight. I'm not saying I'm happy with all the changes, but wow what an uproar this has caused. Nothing worth snapping discs over.

I think for good reason right? In my opinion, there aren't enough exotics to warrant getting rid of any of them:/ Not to mention it took a LOT of time and effort to find all of them in the first place and I know some day 1 players are still missing one or two. Vault space and blueprints will solve most of the issues, my biggest complaint was essentially being forced to delete stuff to continue playing and find new gear so I think we'll have enough room to save most of our favorites. But I don't like erasing progress, and that's what's happening here. We all love finding new gear/weapons but it really seems Bungie forces us just to use certain items based on design. And there is no reason to nerf any exotic in PvE IMO, playing hundreds of hours (1350 in my case) before finding Gjallarhorn, I completed every single game mode without it and to be honest it was more enjoyable that way but again, Bungie nerfed just about every exotic that was worth a damn so it was a harsh grind. Some of my favorite raid exotics, SUROS, Pocket have just been vaulted because they are pretty much useless in endgame activities.

Well Suros will be back, that we know. And despite being heavily nerfed it's still lurking just under the surface in crucible (miss a few bullets against a good Suros user and find out what I mean). Pocket Infinity was my favorite. Now shot package shotties do what PI did. Not sure if that one has been confirmed either way. Might have been OP but at least it had a charge up time. I really wouldn't mind if Gjallarhorn got a v2, but I see why they're a little hesitant. Maybe I'm a little glad for a new meta. "Need 3 more for Oryx raid. Must have max Thunderlord v2". :-p

Well to be honest 4th Horseman and Thunderlord are my favorite exotics and it looks like they'll be coming with. I guess it doesn't really matter. Maybe in a year or so Ghorn V2 will come out and it'll be hyped again haha