Your missing the point, the suggestion is when people PAY (kindly read as get ripped off) to get to the lighthouse, it monetises an element of the game to its detriment, this is a game not your free market. The second point is if you can run and re run to get to the lighthouse shouldn't there me more reward and challenge for those skilful enough to do that... A little something for you and your 'boys' Also when you say zero sum I can only assume your taking an entirely self centred approach to your observation, as every time you make it there again you may well have denied the other 9 teams you potentially faced from doing the same.

I already addressed these points. Your claim about it being a "rip off" is an arbitrary opinion. People regularly attach value to all sorts of products and services and if they get what they were promised in return, then it is not your place to judge whether or not they got a good deal. Plus, like I already said, they still have to do the work with their team mates. Sure, it can be said that this monetizes a certain part of the game but you have still failed to tell us WHY this is a detrimental thing. We gamers are living in a time when micro transactions are the norm in the video game world. I see those being no different than paying someone to help you get to the Lighthouse. And, finally, me choosing to play for the rest of the weekend thereby causing some Guardians to not be able to make it there changes nothing about the original stated purpose of Trials... that it is for good teams to beat ANYONE thrown at them 7-9 (boons) times without losing. You were never supposed to be able to just wait for the good players to get theirs and go away or to be matched with only people your skill level. If people like myself stand in your way then you have to find a way to get better. I know it's just a video game but it's not kindergarten... we don't get ribbons for just showing up.

PS. Bungie has to control the flow of loot very carefully in a game like this. We can already go to the Lighthouse three times a week and reap the rewards. While I do wish the base weapon drops were a little better (love the Scholar - but everything else is crap), I don't actually think we should get more. Maybe a unique emblem for a certain amount of flawless cards completed over the course of a certain time period or something like that... but, even then, I don't think we should be taken out of the matchmaking pool for the reasons I said earlier... mainly, that bad players would just wait for us to leave and then coast to Mercury on the scrubs we left in our wake.

So your saying that your either pro micro transactions or just 'well if they are doing it why shouldn't I'. Both are fairly weak cases in afraid. To cover the 'detrimental' element you will note that micro transactions in most games (aside from freemium games, in which case I'd suggest looking up the Canadian devil for a more than adequate argument), you will note that most game designers try to avoid 'pay to win' options as it encourages an uneven playing environment. In short, Pay to win bad. Your encouraging pay to win (and profiting by it) Just because other elements of business profit like this doesn't mean we should too. I think we can see where your moral position lies.

Unfortunately, you are simply wrong. Paying for weapons and gear in the modern age is regularly sold as an "upgrade" and an "advantage" over the players who don't. Think The Last of Us, Battlefield 4, and ESO just to name a few. Now, one can agree or disagree with this business model, but, to suggest that the developers of these games are offering these products without them being beneficial is simply naive at best. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure you are not aware of the difference between "opinions" and "reasons." First, you opined that it was detrimental without providing any reason/evidence. And, then, when I asked WHY, you responded with your opinion of it being immoral. For clarification, I wasn't asking why YOU feel that it's detrimental or immoral... no one cares what you or I feel. I was asking why your claim IS accurate. So, again, and now with your new claim, why IS it immoral?

And without out metrics from I game analysis opinions is all we get, your also voicing your opinions and yet trying to disregard mine. And the day the best weapons and gear is behind a micro transaction paywall will be a sad day indeed. Long story short if my opinions are invalid so are yours and every forum outside of a scientific journal will be closed down... And if you can't see the potential moral hurdles to overcome about charging people to play a game with you then your the one at a loss.

We don't need to be in a science lab or academic forum to understand the basic concept of the "burden of proof." In case you forgot, YOU made a claim. As such, if you want us to care, YOU have to provide evidence for your claim. If you are now saying that you can't or won't then you have wasted everyone's time by doing nothing more than emoting in a debate forum. You know the old adage: 'Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed, in kind, without evidence.' For future reference, if your only intention is to share your feelings, beginning your thoughts with "in my opinion" or "it's just my opinion" are generally considered the credible paths to follow. At least then, we can all decide to not waste our f#@%ing time on your inane blathering.

At no point did I think I could dissuade you from ripping kids off in a computer game, and as for proof you have provided none yourself to disprove my position. However please read below from bungie's terms and conditions "Unless otherwise specified, the Bungie Services are for your personal and non-commercial use." In this instance you have to accept that you are the one arguing from a position of personal financial gain as you want to justify your behaviour, nothing more. Which appears to be in breach of the terms.

Wow! What a classic! You used the vintage, "you can't prove I'm wrong" bit! Not our responsibility to help your claim. I can't prove that fairies and unicorns don't exist. I can't prove that you and I won't get 72 virgins when we die someday... it's just that we don't have any evidence to prove that they are true. So, again, thanks for sharing your personal feelings with all of us!

Btw, that "day" is already here moron! I provided the examples. You either are not familiar with those games or you are incredibly dense headed.

Wow, resorting to personal attacks now. Classy