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Edited by No Shoes Alowed: 7/30/2015 4:14:41 PM
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The speaker, I don't trust him

So I let my roommate use one of my three characters on destiny and we're always talking about the dialogue of the vendors when you walk by them and how it changes after you complete certain events, ie. Eris after you kill crota. She gave hints after killing crota that oryx would come seeking revenge, low and behold he comes the taken King. Since day one we have had an on going bet about the speaker, because of his looks and voice there is no doubt in my mind he is going to one day betray us. However my roommate swears he is purely good. A few weeks ago I got a confirmation. I was walking around the reef and I can't remember which vendor ( it was either varkis or the Osiris guy) said something along the lines of "what if I told you the speaker has been playing you all along" and I Instantly began to freak out. I believe these small hints given to you by different characters in social realms carry a lot of weight and there's no doubt in my mind that the speaker is now going to betray us. Have anyone of you heard something similar, and if so which vendor did you hear if from? I would love to provide proof to my roommate that the speaker is a sketchy guy. edit: all around awesome responses and perspectives thanks for the insight guys.

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  • Edited by Komaten67: 6/12/2016 12:25:07 AM
    He himself siad "whatever hides in plain sight is making its own plains" thats how i KNOW its him. Whos the least suspicous person to the guardians? HIM.

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  • He also said "What would you do if the speaker was a charlamange?" A charlamange is a false prophit

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    • Bump for later please

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      • Edited by Cool-Caution: 7/30/2015 1:52:37 PM
        are we actually the bad guys in this game? https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/142053926/0/0/1 video link i just found https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CTdzi0hngDM

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        • Haven't you read Brother Vance's grimoire? [spoiler]ENCRYPED: Champollion Algorithm v.4 KEY: ############################VANC My brother, Despite all of Shaxx's work with the Crucible, we must accept that the Tower may never be ready to accept the Trials. But, as many Guardians flock to the Reef, we are suddenly presented with not one opportunity, but two. Go to the Reef. Tell Guardians your story. Give passage to any Guardian that requests it. If the Tower learns of this, do not fear. If they know of the Trials, the Tower will not suspect your other motive for dwelling so close to the margins between Light and Dark. Your sister, Faora [/spoiler]

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          • Edited by zornyan: 7/30/2015 3:57:57 PM
            There are multiple "speakers" he's not the one and only ever, think of him like a shaman in other games. Grimoire cards say their chosen for their ability to communicate with the traveller. Also osiris didn't like the speaker (obviously as he cast him out because of his obsession with the vex) Osiris believes the traveller is an egg, a womb, for something much much greater. (osiris' theories have been proven correct thus far) Edit: brother Vance also has another motive, the trials of osiris is a charade to make us focus on that. (grimoire card again) Osiris sent him there for another mission, and said not to worry about being discovered as no one will question him due to the trials

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            • He is a fool. Not that he is trying to do some stupid shit, but he have unchangeable trust about traveller. And hides truth because, it will decrease belief about traveler. Lol what an idiot.

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              • So is the speaker hiding something

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                • Or when the exo stranger says "a side should always be taken...even if it's the wrong side" might be referred to the awoken...but I feel she's talking about us.

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                  • Wtf? Really that's what he said? I think Brother Vance is glitched for me then. Because he started quoting Nas lyrics & said "They shootin' ! Aw made you look now you a slave to a page in my rhyme book"

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                    • The cult of Osiris don't trust the speaker because he banished Osiris, when Osiris started learning too much

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                    • Did someone say he had the Warlock's Exile helm?

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                      • One of the Trials weapons' description says something about the speaker not having much to say.

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                        • Brother Vance asked what would you do if you found out the speaker was really evil. And yesterday the lady walking around the reef with her tablet said ikora rat was a magical terrorist

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                        • Yeah, I've had the same suspicions ever since I first saw him. He just gives me a really weird vibe. I wouldn't be surprised if him betraying us becomes a major thing later on.

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                        • I heard petra making fun of me behind my back. I thought we were besties. :(

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                          • I agree, the speaker is evil.

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                          • ಠ_ಠ

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                          • I always knew he was a manipulating mofo. My guess has been he is in cahoots with the Traveler. We are being used to bring the traveler to places he can't go by use of the Ghosts.

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                          • "They shooting at me, and until they stop shooting at me and tell me [i]why[/i] they're shooting at me, I'm gonna shoot right back at em". that's my personal philosophy when it comes to my in-game morals, so I don't really care either way.

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                            • Would explain why the speaker doesnt explain anything. Snake. And check the warloks hood of exile helm. Says something about dont you think its odd the so called speaker never has much to say ;)

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                              • I think that he is the reason the traveler is dying

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                                • jep .... the osiris guy told me the same

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