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originally posted in: Donald Trumps view on Immigration.
7/2/2015 4:31:56 AM
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How in the world is what he said offensive? I certainly do not support Trump (right now I'm leaning towards Rand Paul), but most of what Don says is true. There are two ways to come to this country: 1. Come illegally 2. Come legally Liberals would have you believe that they are one in the same, but they are not. I do not know a single Conservative (including Trump) who is against people coming [i]legally[/i].
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  • And yet, Donald Trump managed to piss off the entire Mexican American community, and he's starting to piss off the entire Asian American community right now. Go figure, right?

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  • What did he do to Asians?

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  • Labeled them along with pretty much every single immigrant coming to America as "drug lords", "rapists", and all the other bullshit that came from his mouth. He labeled pretty much every single immigrant as such. Not that many people here, even Republicans, are supporting Donald Trump since he's pretty much the epitome of an extremist Republican. Which is funny, since he's also number 1 on polls for Republicans.

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  • Edited by Metroid: 7/3/2015 9:40:20 PM
    You're just saying that because you were lucky enough to be white and be born here. You didnt have to go through anything, you were born into the privileged situation you're in. Illegal immigrants on the other hand, have reasons for coming illegally. They don't have 10 years to waste waiting for their legal documents to be approved. Many of them have kids, and they don't want to raise their kids in a country full of cartels who are decapitating people left and right for getting in their way. The cities are ran by cartels, they own the police, they own everything in Mexico. You wouldn't last a day in Mexico. You would probably get butt -blam!- your first day there. The people coming here illegally are not cartel members. They are humans just like you and me, who were born into their shitty situation, and the only thing they can possibly do to improve their situation is to come here illegally. But you wouldn't know anything about that because you're a spoiled snobby kid who thinks he's entitled to everything because he was "born here" At the end of the day, we're all Human. It doesn't matter if you're here illegally or legally. Before immigration laws, should come morality. And Are you forgetting that this country was built off immigration? Off people looking for a better life? For God sakes every single white person in North America is a freaking immigrant! Mexicans were the first ones here! And in case you didn't know Mexicans are literally Native American mixed with Spanish. Many of the Mexicans you see today are what are known as "Mestizos" which is a mix of European and Native American. It was you (white people) who came here illegally first and killed half of the Native Americans, then kicked them south of the border to the desert. And now, to top it off, you're not even letting us back into the land that was rightfully ours to begin with Americans are some of the most ignorant, self entitled people on the planet. Read a book or something, please.

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  • And yet when they get here they keep on going -blam!- and stealing. Look at Sweden if you want to see what mass illegal immigration does. 12 year old girls being brutally ra.ped and the one who did it let off with some community service. Gang -blam!-s being given small slaps on the wrists. People being murdered and the murdering not getting any jail time or even deported because that would be "racist". I wish I was exaggerating. That's the end goal of your politically correct bullshit -blam!- you

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  • Edited by Metroid: 7/3/2015 1:27:17 AM
    So you're implying that all Mexican immigrants are thieves and murderers... Do you hear yourself? That is one of the most racist things I've ever heard That's like saying all Black people are gang members, or all white people are part of the KKK when we all know that's not true. Dude not even 1% of the illegal immigrants coming here are rapists or thieves. My parents are illegal immigrants and they're some of the nicest people you'll ever meet. Stop being a racist douche.

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  • You're in such a hurry to call everyone Who's not politically correct a racist you forgot to offer a counter argument. The stats have been posted a couple times in this thread, most illegals commit crimes. No where did I say "all immigrants blah blah what ever you accused me of saying"

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  • Edited by Metroid: 7/3/2015 1:40:02 AM
    "And yet when they get here they keep on going -blam!- and stealing." You just said that about ALL Mexican immigrants. That's fcking racist I don't care how you look at it. You're calling all Mexican immigrants thieves when that's clearly not true. I don't care about the statistics posted on this thread. I know several immigrants myself and not one of them has ever committed murder or been convicted of robbery. Not one. So stop with the racist bullshit Mexicans aren't doing shit to you. Whether they're here or not will have no impact on YOUR life whatsoever

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  • Please point out where I said ALL MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS because I'm pretty sure I said nothing but "illegal immigrants". You sound hysterical, nothing but appeals to emotion and personal attacks. You're either a female or have never been in any kind of real debate or discussion outside of echo chambers. Btw you still have not offered a counter argument beyond plugging your ears and calling me racist over and over

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  • [quote]Please point out where I said ALL MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS because I'm pretty sure I said nothing but "illegal immigrants". You sound hysterical, nothing but appeals to emotion and personal attacks. You're either a female or have never been in any kind of real debate or discussion outside of echo chambers. Btw you still have not offered a counter argument beyond plugging your ears and calling me racist over and over[/quote] I just f*cking quoted you saying it, how more specific do you want me to get? This is a thread about MEXICAN ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I made a comment about MEXICAN ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, and you replied to me saying that they're all thieves. I can quote you again but I'm not gonna do that. And what do exactly do you want me to counter argue? You said that all illegal immigrants are murderers and thieves who get let off the hook simply because they're illegal immigrants. But that's not f*cking true. Not even .001% of immigrants have committed murder. Jesus Christ you act like immigrants are some f*cking animals or some shit. THEYRE HUMAN BEINGS. They just were not lucky enough to be born here like your self entitled spoiled bitch ass was

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  • Edited by AustinSX: 7/3/2015 2:49:46 AM
    Ya, illegals commit crimes dude. I'm not talking legal immigrants.

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  • [quote]How in the world is what he said offensive?[/quote] Probably all the "bunch of rapists" stuff. When you begin with a sensible argument, and then start whipping out [i]other crazy stuff[/i], nobody is gonna care about the original sensible bit. Trying to conflate negative reaction to the other crazy stuff with a negative reaction to the sensible bit is also definitely arguing in bad faith.

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  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/15/us-releases-illegals-who-are-sex-offenders/?page=all Perhaps he was referring to this? ^ http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/29398127/illegal-immigrant-sex-offenders-living-in-memphis-neighborhoods Or this? ^

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  • No don't, that's not politically correct!!! You'll trigger all the liberals

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