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6/4/2015 6:14:07 AM
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Wow you really like the sound of your own voice. Anyway back to why i'm replying, nothing on this game is too difficult, VOG was more challenging than crota hardmode by a long way, hell even as 32's some people still struggled to complete vog, where as hard mode crota was a cakewalk.
Likewise the new POE, really isn't very difficult by any stretch of the imagination, 32's take half hour if that, 34's maybe 40 mins (a touch longer last week) and the 35's are often easier/quicker than the 34's.
Bottom line is if the game is dummed down to your level of skill, then me and many other players would stop playing.
Disclaimer... I dont consider my self a so called elite gamer and i never stream my game play or post up videos of it.
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If you think VoG was harder than crota, then you're what's wrong with the game. VoG involved thinking, somethign you must be terrible at if you found it hard, because it just isn't. They need more content like VoG, things that incorporate a variety of skills, because pure shooting galleries like crota get WAY too hard, way too fast, and only the players who're exclusively good at that content will ever enjoy it. The way to make content both challenging to the broadest array of players without being overwhelming to the majority of players is to utilize as many different factors as possible. You've exactly proven my point as to what's wrong with the Qodron encounter and the crota raids. So I really should thank you. They geared the experience too far towards the point-and-click aspect of the game, but they COULD have made it more difficult for your kind of players with smart mechanics without making it too hard for the rest of us with more than one skill.
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Right that last idiotic comment has forced to look you up, and you have 1 completion of each raid thats it. i'll there for take an educated guess that you never ran vog before the first dlc as a 29 (or 28 even) like most people. This is what made it challenging, running through as a 32-34 is easy yeah. Now onto Crota this raid had been solo'd by thousands of people without much trouble, there is even people who have solo'd it with using guns!! Surely this shows you how easy the raid is, and why many think of it as more of a glorified strike May i suggest you just get some more play time and learn the game before attempting to speak for all of us. O and lastly i really enjoyed vog has been my favourite part of destiny ad really want more proper raids like this introducing, but i dont want them watered down so that even a player like yourself can complete it. The games hardest content should be just that hard!!!
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Edited by Survey says: 6/4/2015 10:08:34 PMI in fact did beat VoG as a 28, with only one 29 in my group. You also assume this is my only account, which is a poor assumption. I want the content to be hard, too. I honestly thouht VoG normal mode, once you got it down was damn easy and hard mode was a wonderful challenge. EDIT: I have nothing to gain from lying. Everyone else on the internet may be out here to show off their e-pene, but I'd rather be forgettable. I've never been on here before and I won't be for long. I don't to be a voice for a group, I want bungie to let the REAL player-base speak for themselves, and that doesn't happen on the forums or anywhere else on the net.
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No, really, ahales85 is right. If you’re finding Crota too hard, there’s something going wrong somewhere; it’s definitely easier than VoG (and I say that as someone who prefers VoG). Seriously, let us know where you and your fire team are getting stuck and we’ll try to help.
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I seriously struggle to comprehend how anyone struggles with VoG and finds crota easy. Yes, crota is a straight-forward shooting gallery. It's more like PoE than a Raid. I can only assume the lack of challenge coems from the lack of thought involved. There's really no strategy needed in crota's end, it's just sit around and pound on guys until they fall. I get that. Crota hard mode was made artificially challenging by making you hit more guys more times and that's it. The thing is, this isn't House of the Dead, it's not a game of point and shoot the inifinite supply of enemies as fast as you can or else you die. I'm glad that players like you are happy to help others, but I've never met a player in-game or in real life who thought VoG was 50% as hard as crota's end. It's been pretty unanimous on my end that the strategy of making the enemies eat more bullets to make it harder is ruining the game for the majority of players.
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I don’t think anyone who [i]struggles[/i] with VoG is going to find Crota’s End easy. But for those of us who don’t struggle with either, I think VoG is objectively harder than Crota’s End. That probably becomes more apparent when your guardian has levelled up a bit, because of course the enemies in Crota’s End are higher level, so initially you might think it was the other way around. Partly this is because — and you and I agree on this — Crota’s End is indeed a bit shootier than VoG. BTW, if you’re complaining specifically about the Abyss (it seems you might be, given your comment about the infinite supply of enemies), there are a couple of easy ways to do that section. The simplest and least cheesy of them is to get a hunter to go invisible and solo it, which is really not hard; it’s easiest with Don’t Touch Me’s… without them, you might occasionally need to jump on the top of the lamps, but the key is to keep moving and to be invisible as much as possible. The only bit that’s slightly tricky is that you need to jump onto one of the rocks at the top so the thralls don’t kill you, and you need to take out the ogre(s) quickly (Gjallahorn is best, if you have it, but sniper rifles and other heavys can kill ogres fast enough). There’s a reasonable video of someone doing this on hard mode here: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgdkb1v3vvo[/url]
