Please just stop posting Nerf requests - its getting ridiculous. We all get it - you died in iron banner - oh noes! Must be the guns fault. Here's the thing - the only "valid-ish" arguments stem from a ttk perspective. Essentially what you all have been asking for is that every gun in the game needs to be the same ttk... Why in the world would you want this?! Different guns have different perks for different play styles - each one can counter the other. If you want every gun to have the same ttk, then please do us all a favor and go play COD? or something with a default load out. The problem with this argument is that you nerfers fail to understand the concept that some guns are great for pvp and some are great for pve - you use the right tool for the job. Thorn is not that great in PVE, but great in pvp - same goes with a black hammer for PVE, and an ESpear for PVP. Right tool for the job - not every gun was designed for PVP, same goes with PVE - just learn the effing difference and play the game.