The ice caps are growing
And there are downsides to renewable energy
Windmill farms kill hundreds of thousands of birds every year. I thought you were pro environment? Also it is a lot of money
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Growing my ass. Since we're on the topic of dead animals, why don't we discuss the thousands of cows you fat asses eat? 'o no th birds. burgr r delishs mhuocmhoucmhouc'
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I'll just leave this here.
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Edited by Britton: 3/24/2015 1:00:46 AMAs you can see, if you took a very short period of time from that chart, you can show whatever you want when it comes to sea ice, but what matters is the overall trend.
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Edited by Britton: 3/24/2015 12:57:14 AMWow! One year of gain compared to decades of overall loss! Astounding! A single year is not a trend by any means.
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Pesky climate scientist, foiled again.
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Yup, that's called a prediction. Predictions are often wrong, and that one was wrong. There's a difference between predicting things and observing events occurring in real life which is what this article is. I don't look at predictions that much either, because as you showed, they arent reliable. Real events are reliable though.
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But the science is settle?
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Edited by Britton: 3/24/2015 1:17:56 AMPredictions aren't settled until they are proven wrong or true with time, that's why they are predictions. But the science of what is going on and what is causing it is. The rate at which things are going to happen though is not settled.
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That doesn't sound very scientific. That sounds like the plot of 2012, and that movie sucked.
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No the plot of 2012 is "HOLY SHIT IT ITS THE MOTHER FU[b][/b]CKING APOCALYPSE" and that movie did suck. Predicting weather is and always has been very difficult because of how dynamic it is. There's a reason why your typical forecasts only go 14 days out, and hurricane predictions are presented in a huge cone shape. Predicting weather means calculating how billions of individual particles will interact with each other. Prediction isnt a science. Its prediction, and you can base your predictions on science, but if the prediction is wrong that doesn't mean the science is wrong.
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No watch the fist 30 mins. Science dude tells the president. Then 10 mins later they're all like "oh my god, it's happening faster than we thought!", and I thought weather wasn't climate. That's what people always say when the weather doesn't jive with the theory. Of coarse when the weather is crazy then all of a sudden it climate change. It's to hard to keep up with.
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I think you're missing the part where [b]that's a fu[b][/b]cking movie[/b]. You can't compare movies to real life and expect them to accurately correlate.
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So archeologist don't carry whips and fight názis?
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Hahahaha. That actually made me laugh. Well played.
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That's why I like you Britton. We can be on total oppose sides of an issue, have a nice discussion without name calling or questioning the others intelligence, and have a good laugh when it's all over.
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Thanks dude.
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I'm aware of the windmills, but ill take dead birds over dead oceans. Also I was thinking more solar. We have a giant unlimited source of energy that bathes the entire planet in more energy then we could ever use. Why not harness it?
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Maybe because we are 17 trillion dollars in debt, and solar panels are expensive
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Solar panels aren't that expensive. Especially ones for your home. Just lease some from Solar City (if their servicing your town).
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They also take up huge tracts of land, fry birds, have the cleaned of dust and snow, and only work in sunlight (good luck Pacific Northwest). Renewable produce 3-5% on our national energy needs, shits inefficient.
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It only produces 3-6% because we have very very little renewables in place. 100% is not likely, but we should be at least trying to keep on par with countries like Germany that already get 30% of their power from solar.
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Sounds great, what could be the down side of that? Oh yeah $0.35 per kWh compared to $0.12 per kWh. Trying selling that to the majority of people in this country. Nevermind, you can just pay for it with government subsides.
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Long term profitability would offset initial cost
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Yeah, sure it will. I'm sure once the few manufacturing jobs we have left disappear, the profit will just roll in. I'm sure that when the publics electric bills triple they'll just chomping at the bit to go spend money and grow the economy.