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2/13/2015 2:37:48 PM
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Please, I've probably contributed more to this community in the 1 year I've been here then you have in the 2 years you been here combined.
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  • Doubt it

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  • And you are?

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  • Somebody who hates feminists. That's all you need to know

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  • You're just a nerd who has a tendency to be wrong :^)))))

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  • I see you still can't provide one valid reason why feminism is needed in the first world without regurgitating debunked material.

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  • I've given literally hundreds of reasons. Unsure of what the 'debunked' material is

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  • Give me one reason right now and I'll tell you why/how it is debunked. And no social problems. Social problems are not solved by laws.

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  • Who said I wanted laws? That's a straw man right there.

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  • Avoiding the question I see.

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  • You asked a question that has no relevance to modern feminism

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  • fine, if my question is too diffcult for you to answer, I'll reword it. Give me one reason feminism is required in society today. First world of course.

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  • The fact the stud/slut dichotomy exists

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  • It only exists if you make it. It differs from place to place. For example, where I live if you sleep around you are slut shamed no matter which gender.

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  • I'm talking about the general culture and deny it as you will, media alone evidences that it exists.

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  • Find 3 legitamate articles promoting slut shaming and I'll consider believing you.

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  • You have already stated you are aware of slut-shaming, don't you instead want examples of the dichotomy, the fact that slut and stud have the same meaning yet opposite connotations? You can find that anywhere m8 (such as the lad bible!) Let's take two popular movies of recent years, Iron Man and Batman Begins. In both films the title characters are seen with multiple women and this is regarded as enviable and "damn, look at them". Women who sleep with lots of men as they do women? Sluts. [spoiler]inb4 THAT'S NOT REAL, it's representative of how these issues are shown in our culture[/spoiler]

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  • [quote]I can't find the articles so I made assumptions about society based upon what I see in movies and how I think people would react to it[/quote] That's all I read.

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  • Learn some comprehension, then. If you fail to even acknowledge the most basic analysis of modern films God forbid you ever pick up a book.

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  • I think you fail to understand where the slut/stud thing came from. Actually, biologically speaking, not slut shaming is technically unnatural.

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  • Appeal to nature, don't do that. But it seems you have conceded the point, and in accepting it decided to defend it. Don't do that either.

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  • Admiting that it exists in our minds is not the same thing as admiting it exists in society.

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  • Stop weaseling about here, you wouldn't have brought it up if it was irrelevant as that

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  • Stop straw-manning me. All I'm saying is that it really isn't a reason to get all up and arms about feminism because in order to get rid of that subconscious mindset entirely you'd need to change the human race by eliminating male disposability.

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  • That is an absolutely awful argument. Modern civilisation doesn't need it. I can live without it. Everyone can, and the world would be a better place for it. So now we've gotten to the point that you've conceded it might be an issue but we may as well leave it be

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  • No, I'm saying that it's an issue that is fabricated in our minds. In my mind, it doesn't exist in society. In yours, it obviously does. Regardless, I never denied it existed in our minds, only in society. Like I already said, you see what you want to see. More importantly, why is it a valid reason that you should join feminism instead of egalitarianism? The only reason I can think of is because you don't believe men have any problems, at least none as big as being harassed. But enlighten me. Inb4poisoningthewell

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