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Edited by H264: 4/13/2015 3:11:01 PM
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That last missing raid weapon - RNG bugged/manipulated/rigged?

So many people cannot get that one last raid weapon. I hear someone in every normal mode raid I do, missing just one raid weapon. For me it's Black Hammer. In 21 NM completions I have gotten 2-3 of all the other special/heavy weapons, but no Black Hammer. I am starting to think Bungie is tweaking the drop rates dynamically to reduce your chances of getting that last remaining weapon. Reason: to keep you playing longer, and/or come back to the game to try again, i.e. keep the hamster wheel spinning. Or: a lot of people are just really, really unlucky. Update: 18 more completions, still no Black Hammer (zero weapons three weeks in a row). I have now completed NM 39 times, I have received 5 Swordbreakers, 4 Light of the Abyss, 4 Hunger of Crota, 3 Song of Ir Yut, zero Black Hammers. Based on my drops so far, if I figure there's about a 60% chance of getting a weapon from Crota NM, and there are 5 weapons, Light, Sword, Song, Hunger, BH, if RNG is fair, there's about a 60/5 = 12% chance of getting BH. There's an 88% chance of not getting it. So to _not_ get it 39 times in a row has a probability of 0.88^39 = 0.0068 (0.68%) - or one half out of 100. That's pretty bad luck! This assumes independent, completely random events, which may or may not be true. And the 60% guess is based on way too few results to be anywhere near accurate. But given those two assumptions, one can then calculate the probability of the series of events of not getting a drop, and plug in various numbers to see how it affects the probability of the whole series.

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  • How many friends have you troll sacrificed to rngesus? You get nothing if you give nothing

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  • Praetorian Foil, -blam!-ing #-%:#($;%

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  • Over 100 VoG completions, of that about 60 are hard and still No Praetorians Foils.

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    • [quote]if RNG is fair[/quote] BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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    • No pratorian foil :/

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    • I have gotten multiple of every raid weapon, about 40 completions on each raid and that's only actually the boss, I'm missing hunger of scrota and corrective measure, arguably the best ones besides the hammer. :/

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    • I'm missing Hunger of Crota and Praedyths Timepeice

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    • Used to be VoC but got that recently. (Day one player). And now all I'm missing from all raids on any character is tr VoG gauntlets on hunter

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    • Never got atheons epilouge

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    • Black Hammer, all I get is Song of IrYut, it -blam!-ing sucks

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    • I agree that it seems like the last weapon won't drop, even for VoG. I have like a total of 9 DAYS raiding, and I'm sure CE makes up less than a day of that. Hezen Vengeance is the only item--not the only weapon, the only item--that I've never gotten.

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    • I got black hammer the first time, but never again. It's just an extremely rare drop I think. It is obviously the best gun from nm. As for what I'm missing, I have all of the crota guns, but I'm missing corrective measure from vault.

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    • No black hammer here. Multiple drops for the others. See how the Titan goes; not crossing my fingers though.

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    • No song, vex or FB. Keepin on...

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    • I just need Fatebringer :(

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    • I need swordbreaker and crux

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    • The hunger refuses to drop but on the plus side Ive had 9-10 sword breakers cos you can never have enough of the same weapon

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    • I'm in the same boat. Trying my ass off to get black hammer. It just doesn't wanna drop for me.

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    • I don't have Voc.

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    • I don't have hunger

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    • i have all the crota weapons except the crux I've gotten all of them multiple times except the crux. damn you crux i know the gun you make sucks but jeez let me get one if only just to look at

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    • Bro I was with you. I beat crota 3 times a week since it dropped and only recently acquired mine. I didn't get a praetorian foil until after TDB. Guess what. It's going to be ok.

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    • Everytime you finish it rolls the "get a weapon" dice. Let's call it 60% you get it. Then it rolls the "which weapon" dice. Every single roll you have a 12% chance by your math to get that specific weapon. I know each time you flip a coin, the odds are always the same. Over 100 flips, it should even out. But it's entirely possibly to flip talks 100 times in a row...

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    • I know what you mean,I've been waiting for blackhammer now for 9 weeks total doing normal on all 3 characters too..likewise for VOG,I need corrective measure and it's now 5 weeks.. For exotics I just need patience and time and for exotic gear I need 4 pieces.. Do you think the RNG gods favour me?? Nope all they do is tease me and show me everyone else getting thethese weapons i need LIKE look what you coulda won....!!! It's like collecting painini stickers as a kid..they knew they would never release them all so you'd keep buying more sticker packets in the hope that you get that one that you need.. RNG gods and bungie are like..you have to play my game.. And you play it every reset in the hope and say eff this I'm done BUT next week your saying YESH this is my week.. -blam!-TARDS

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    • Cry some more 60+ Conpeltions every exotic (have Crux no husk) Every VoG weapon and gear for warlock Every Croat gear and weapons EXCEPT A BLACK HAMMER

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    • I finally got it last week. It had evaded me for so long I had given up. Now to upgrade it this week before I have to upgrade it next week...

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