Honestly if someone from bungie could just come in here and tell us they're working on fixing this shit I think it would go a long way instead of sending someone to say "it not our fault, call your isp' . They're acting so oblivious to the fact that this is a freakin huge issue and its hindering the experience for tons of people. As far as I know bungie isn't trying to fix this and is simply putting the responsibility on us as consumers. Everyone in this forum and many other forums have seemingly gone through troubleshooting with all bungie's "solutions" and none of them worked. The majority of people have also contacted there isp's and microsoft or sony and been told that everything is fine on there end. You can type in "centipede" or "bee" errors in google and be greeted by a plethora of articles and forums regarding the unresolved issues, so at least let the consumer know that problem will be looked after and so we stop wasting hours of our time trying to troubleshoot this. My mom is a network administrator and attempted to attack this issue with hours of her own time to no avail, all of our connection speeds and equipment are certainly above average. Everyone just wants to play the damn game, or else we wouldnt give a shit.