The current PVE Meta is arguably in the most boring state in Destiny history. I know if ppl read this, i will get barked at by each and every current person that raids and worked extremely hard to get their tough to obtain CRUCIBLE pinnacle rewards (i'm sure it was really hard to match up in comp with another premade, meet at the middle of the map and killtrade each other with grenade launchers, yes i feel bad for you that you had to push through those rough and challenging matches to feel good about obtaining these pinnacles). All that aside, am i the only one thinking that these current "meta" loadouts aren't only extremely easy to use/way to powerful but also extremely BORING? Yesterday i decided to do a couple hours of strikes to get a chance to maybe get a catalyst and i used the new menagerie shotgun, a dragonfly handcannon and sleeper. Let me tell you, i had genuine fun using a loadout like that, even considering the fact we only played the same 2 or 3 strikes we've been playing for the last 12 years since the strike playlist is... you know. While doing this, a few friends asked me "hey wanna do some CoS runs?", i instantly thought about running Mountaintop, Recluse and another spike grenade launcher again and instantly said "no, would rather smash my head against a wall for those 30 minutes". The raid is insanely fun don't get me wrong but bungie did nerf guns like the whisper and nerfed our super regenerating exotics pre-season of oppulence BECAUSE they made us to powerful in end game encounters. But now apperently everyone is fine with almost one shotting the ogres in CoS with a single SPECIAL AMMO weapon shot simply because "they worked hard for it (LOL) and it's a pinnacle weapon which should feel pinnacle (another LOL). Atleast weapons like Whisper, Sleeper etc felt fun to use to some degree, now its just sitting behind a rally barricade spamming mini rocket launchers at static targets. I am not saying buff whisper again or something, i don't want that, all i'm saying is "we need fun loadouts to be viable again". Shotguns for a special weapon choice atleast felt challenging or threatening to use since there's stomp mechanics etc. and also for some reason shotguns felt FUN to use in pve since D1. Mountaintop has only been meta for what, half a year now? requires no effort to use, does WAY to much damage, you can do everything with it from a safe distance and get rewarded for that lame playstyle. In addition, cause i know some smart kid will say "just use your loadouts then". Thats not how a meta works for endgame. If you don't do the optimal damage and ad clear loadout which is found in mountaintop, recluzZzZzZze and other spikes, you'll get either called out, raid kicked, blamed and yelled at. That's sadly how raiding with lfg groups or mostly every group in Destiny is nowadays. Also for the other half of smart kids who are about to type "git gud then and get those guns" i have all of them and can't be arsed to use this boring op loadout anymore.