There is a big portion of this thread is based on [b]Brick perfected's argument[/b] but as a lot would agree here is why his argument does not hold up. The players are just utilizing the games mechanics to the best of their ability which by definition [i]would[/i] be an exploit but not in the context you're (brick perfected) using it. He is exploiting the self Rez I.E. Using it to the best of its ability. It's only a cheat in the context of gaming if he somehow circumvented a safeguard or preventative measure within the games programming in order to finish the encounter. There is no safeguard against this, nor is he glitching the game. Just because a developer didn't think about doing one specific think a certain way (its intent) doesn't make it a cheat if a player does it. You're (Brick perfected) using a definition of the word exploit that says itself to be [b]debatable[/b] and not a clear proven fact. So you argument really has no proof whatsoever. Just a debatable idea. (Don't get your argumentative points from Wikipedia I guess) As well, by your logic, a blade dancer using the swing of the arcblade to cross a gap or distance that would otherwise be uncrossable is cheating. This would mean that going into pvp and blade-dancing and killing someone from a very far away distance is cheating. Which it clearly is not. It's a super. Supers enable you to do things that are normally not possible in your characters' neutral state to give yourself an advantage. That's what makes them [b][i][u]Super[/u][/i][/b]. It just so happens that one advantage of selfres is that it revives whenever you want. Dying in the first place removes the debuff you had previous to dying. That removal of the debuff is clearly in the programming of destiny and most other games with "debuffs". So that anyone when they are revived are not revived at a disadvantage I.E. with a debuff [u]That is not cheating[/u] as the game is programmed that way. Brick Perfected's argument is flawed in that he provides no evidence of the the player circumventing or glitching the game's programming in anyway. It's all just his (frankly limited) understanding of the term exploit, and his opinion of using self Rez as "cheap."