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Edited by Brick:
10/22/2016 10:05:12 PM
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Any time someone exploits mechanics with self rez it completely negates the accomplishment, to me at least.
[spoiler]I find it hilarious that most of you have no idea what an exploit is lmao[/spoiler]
The amount of salt being thrown at me right now is reaching critical levels. I'm sorry you all can't handle simple terminology.
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[quote]Again, it is an exploit by the very definition of exploit. I don't understand why people cannot grasp this.[/quote] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploit. Here you go salt master flex. Learn what your talking about before preaching stupidity. 😉
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Yeah.. It has to be in the right context, genius. Try this one on for size: [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_exploits]link[/url] [quote]In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.[1] Exploits have been classified as a form of cheating; however, the precise determination of what is or is not considered an exploit can be controversial. This debate stems from a number of factors but typically involves the argument that the issues are part of the game and require no changes or external programs to take advantage of them.[2][/quote]
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Edited by Gondimus: 10/23/2016 5:57:42 AMDid you really use a definition that acknowledges the debatability of what constitutes an exploit within itself to support your belief of what an exploit is? I hope you see what you did there. The definition you are relying on as proof acknowledges that what constitutes an exploit is debatable. Therefore, it literally can't stand as the proof of your one side of the argument. The definition does not concretely uphold your belief, it asserts that your belief is debatable. Debate inception.
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[quote]Yeah.. It has to be in the right context, genius. Try this one on for size: [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_exploits]link[/url] [quote]In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.[1] Exploits have been classified as a form of cheating; however, the precise determination of what is or is not considered an exploit can be controversial. This debate stems from a number of factors but typically involves the argument that the issues are part of the game and require no changes or external programs to take advantage of them.[2][/quote][/quote] I appreciate the genius comment, dummy. Exploit is an exploit. Your saying jumping off a ledge to be able to use your super is cheating, your gunna tell me if you had the ability to do it you wouldn't try to do it to solo it? I'll leave it at this, if you post a video of you soloing aksis without doing it, I'll shut my mouth and congratulate you, but until then, you should stop talking, because you just look like your head is up your ass. 😅
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Intentionally committing suicide to rid yourself of a debuff is an exploit. It is [b]not how the encounter was designed to work.[/b] Negating a mechanic is, and always will be, exploitation.
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Edited by Incubus: 10/23/2016 6:37:14 PMThey are just utilizing the games mechanics to the best of their ability which by definition [i]would[/i] be an exploit but not in the context you're using it. He is exploiting the self Rez I.E. Using it to the best of his ability. It's only a cheat in the context of gaming if he somehow circumvented a safeguard within the games programming in order to finish the encounter. There is no safeguard against this nor is he glitching the game. Just because a developer didn't think about doing one specific think a certain way (its intent) doesn't make it a cheat if a player does it. You're using a definition of the word exploit that says itself to be [b]debatable[/b] and not a clear proven fact. So you argument really has no proof whatsoever. Just a debatable idea. (Don't get your argumentative points from Wikipedia I guess) As well, by your logic, a blade dancer using the swing of the arcblade to cross a gap or distance that would otherwise be uncrossable is cheating. This would mean that going into pvp and blade-dancing and killing someone from a very far away distance is cheating. Which it clearly is not. It's a super. Supers enable you to do things that are normally not possible in your characters' neutral state to give yourself an advantage. That's what makes them [b][i][u]Super[/u][/i][/b]. It just so happens that one advantage of selfres is that it revives you without any of the debuffs you had previous to dying. [u]That is not cheating[/u].
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[quote]Intentionally committing suicide to rid yourself of a debuff is an exploit. It is [b]not how the encounter was designed to work.[/b] Negating a mechanic is, and always will be, exploitation.[/quote] Why don't you read the lore. Warlocks are known for doing drastic things to complete drastic tasks. On that note, I'm done with you. Lol.
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If bungie didn't want players within the fire team to have collision detection with each other to do this we wouldn't have collision detection at all in fireteams
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No, because an exploit makes it unfairly easier or defeat the point of an encounter. Example, people cheesing the entire crota raid IS an exploit
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Are you trying to say that smacking someone with Suncharge 35-40 feet at a clip doesn't make two-manning that encounter easier? For real? You know Suncharge wasn't developed with the intention of being able to launch your teammates across the map. Why would you even question this?
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WOW. so by your logic. using supers to make things easier is a exploit? huh ok. *yells* HEY HUNTERS, TITANS APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO THIS MORON USING YOUR TETHERS AND BUBBLES AT THE SIEGE ENGINE IS A EXPLOIT BECAUSE IT MAKES THE ENCOUNTER EASIER. TIME TO TURN YOURSELVES IN TO THE EXPLOIT POLICE. oh just to add injury to insult i bet when you do the raid and you use your super on the enemies. guess what. you just did an exploit so uhhh ya. your a cheater now. hows it feel?
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It makes it easier, but you must have a super and make sure you don't -blam!- it up. Also, from what I saw fro! The motw video, it only got them half across. You still need to fight the ads and get the parts AND kill mesik
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You are missing the point entirely.
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Yeah, you are right. His mastery of mechanics, damage dealing, responsiveness, accuracy, speed, agility and strategy are totally negated by using his Super to SOLO FACKING AKSIS! That run was batshit insane! Even the self res IMMEDIATELY after dying gave it a cinematic "NOT DEAD YET B*TCH" feeling.
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Of course because you can solo it without self rez everyone's a critic now huh?
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Edited by Brick: 10/22/2016 9:25:52 PMYou cannot solo it without exploits, just like Oryx.
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There was no exploit in this video....
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You must be fun at parties.
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I guess that the perfect timing and mastery is not enough to make you impressed?
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Do it yourself without Selfrez
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It's impossible without self rez. It's impossible without using an exploit.
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Exploits eventually always get patched. I think Bungie might have spotted this one by now don't you?
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self rez isn't an exploit, it's a mechanic of a sub class. mmmmm salt
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No salt at all lol, just not impressed by exploits
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Brick, so, so apt....
