We already had congers to the other classes, people either didn't know how to use them or didn't care to learn. Bungie nerfed those counters to the ground. The topic is Shoulder Charge. I don't think it's a good idea to make stuff specifically tiered to counter something. Each class had their counters to shudder charge already,mother consisted of Grenades, Throwing Knife, Blink, and of course weapons that didn't shoot peas. We don't need to add counters, we need to restore the counters we once had and people either need to take time to get better at PvP (stop expecting Bungie to make shit easier for you) or just go play PvE. PvP isn't for some people, and if it isn't for you than don't play it... Why should my experience and the experience of many other Crucible lovers get ruined because people want to get babied through everything... Shoulder charge and Sniper rifles were never a problem or complained about to the extent they are today in year one there was a reason for that, a formula to handle them . Find that formula and apply it again, but this time around if people are too lazy to solve the formula even though you give them the tools (weapons/counters) to do so than don't just give them the answer, they have to figure it out on their own.