Kingsfall is pretty good though. The oryx fight is the most impressive visually. I haven't run kingsfall enough times to decide which I enjoy more, but I really like kingsfall and it's a great raid. If a bit on the easy side. I think though, had kingsfall come first and then we got VOG people would be talking about how visually unappealing the boss fight is. Nobody cares about crotas end.