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Edited by endexer929: 8/11/2023 11:56:58 PM
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Competitive pvp is some BS

I have been grinding PvP straight for about 80-100 hours. I went from a 0.65 to a 0.95 (with a max of 0.97). I was just demoted to silver and I am done. Whoever made the PvP comp system is either an idiot or just someone -blam!- hates fun. Get a win? +50 points. Lose because you played against some flawless emblem BS same clan sweaty goobers? -200 points! Also in what universe is relegation a good idea, I've literally never seen it in another game and it sucks and is super demotivating. Did I also mention, the only reason I'm doing this is to just get to plat, because I want the glorious title. That's it. No ascendent or anything like that, and that's usually when I've seen people complain about it. Now I get it, it's partially a skill issue on my part but that doesn't mean it still isn't super demotivating and made terribly. I have about 535 hours in warframe and not once was there a grind as bad as this. Also rift doesn't feel like a competitive mode and just really shouldn't be in the playlist.

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  • You’re complaining because of your lack of skill level and blaming it on Bungie? The reason your gain little point and lose many is because your hidden MMR is lower than the actual skill level you’re playing at. If you want to gain more points and lose less then you have to play better. Don’t get me wrong, I think the current system for competitive is garbage. SBMM is to blame, it’s a failure of a system that doesn’t belong in any video game, especially a ranked playlist. You can thank the casual players for that one. But, just because the current system is garbage doesn’t mean it’s unfair. If you can’t climb that’s not anyone else’s fault but your own. If reaching platinum is a grind that’s not anyone’s problem but your own. If you can’t reach the rank you want you shouldn’t be able to receive the rewards.

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    • Jesus… and here am I thinking my loses are because of Rift! 🤣

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    • What have we learned

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      • Working as intended. Play solo, you'll be put on the worst teams the algorithm can find. If you are a streamer and have access to godly players, the game plays itself

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      • Can someone tell me how to get the risk runner gun back 😅

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        • Edited by FataLVisioN_Oo: 8/12/2023 2:11:40 AM
          They have a pre determined rank they want you at.. they've stated this lol. Yes, it's some BS. Once you get to the rank they went you? Couldn't tell ya how many matches I had won in a row at +2 - +8 points 🤣 lose a single match though and it was -150 - -200.. yeah not worth my time

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          • The Comp playlist is a complete mess. It uses SBMM instead of rank-based MM, which effectively invalidates having a rank at all because the game is using an entirely different metric to determine your matches. There is no logic in having to play against people at a higher rank just to prove that you deserve to be in your current one. If the game has determined that someone is good enough to play against people in a given rank, then one would think that logically they should also be in that rank. Instead, you have people in Gold playing Ascendants because their hidden stats are equal. As you're aware, there's also no consistency in how many points you gain or lose after a match. I don't want to insult your pursuit, but Glorious is almost entirely a meaningless title because of this; it isn't indicative of being at a certain skill level, or a great accomplishment of punching above your weight. It just happens after beating your head against a wall for long enough. It's the 4th most common title, and is by far the most common one earned through Crucible. 50% more people have Glorious than Deadeye, whose requirements are literally just "use every weapon type for a bit".

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            • I’m convinced it’s just to waste peoples time, especially with the “rank inflation/deflation” modifiers. If I play a few matches at a time per day, it’s almost always better results than grinding a bunch in a row as well.

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              • What a waste of 100 hours.

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                • When a .97 says Rift doesn’t belong in Comp then you know it’s real lol. And I mean that with all due respect. Because anytime a competent player says Rift doesn’t belong in Comp in the forums, all the blueberries with no thumbs come out of the woodworks to mock them for some reason. They literally like wait in the sewers for these kinds of posts to project their terrible game sense onto competent players. So it’s good to see a player at your level (who has actually played Comp) confirm Rift isn’t healthy for that playlist. Best of luck with the title.

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                  • 1) Congrats on making it to a 0.95. In Comp, that's a pretty good K/D. 2) Flawless Emblems mean nothing. 3) Being in the same clan as your team means nothing. 4) Your Comp Rank is determined by your "skill," which is also the stat used to determine your opponents and teammates. If you match players who are Ascendent, then you'll eventually come close to reaching Ascendent. If you match Gold players, it's unlikely you'll ever reach above Gold. Of course, (1) and (4) change next season when Bungie changes how Comp Ranks are awarded and how you matchmake.

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                  • The thing you’re misinterpreting about destiny competitive is. That you think getting better brings you up in rank… and bungie has stated this is not true. If you get better in the competitive playlist it’s will result in your matchmaking getting harder. The only thing you’re skill does in this playlist is give you better opponents. This is bungie theory about fairness. You’re honestly experience what top end players complain about on you’re own lvl. There are a lot of yt videos out there where ppl are in gold facing off against ascendent because there behind the scene skill says you’re should be playing these ppl. I can give you a in-depth explanation if you want. But essential bungie is staying that rank is a second objective and playing ppl of you skill and winning is the first. Hope this helps… the bottum line is bungie stamens are ppl with lower skill need protection from ppl who are better that’s why you prbly only when from feeling that you’re improving but you’re matchmaking only got harder. While the rank might go down

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