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Edited by QuidProQuo: 1/24/2015 4:22:18 PM
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Petition to "upgrade" all out of date raid gear

The Vault of Glass is absolutely one of my favorite things to do, both raids are immensely fun with the right group, but it's painful when you don't get that one weapon/gear drop that you need. Personally, I've only gotten a single chest armor drop from either raid, the VoG Chest piece on my hunter. I understand that the point in having the new raid gear boosting your light level is designed to make you "buy" more content from Bungie and is all about the bottom line, to be honest, I don't mind it. My concern is that there will be a new raid, with new gear and new weapons that make all of the old ones less useful. The newest raid, Crota's End, has its own set of unique upgrade materials. That being said, they are obviously only obtainable by doing that raid. It's not confirmed yet as to what the House of Wolves raid will use for upgrade material, but radiant material seems likely. So the only way to upgrade the raid gear for two of the three raids is to have done the newest raids. While the Vault of Glass Raid gear will set in a terminal 30 light per piece and 300 attack cap. Using only ascendant materials that we, at least most of us, have plenty of just stockpiled for nothing really... [b] Here's my plan: ● While equipped, any raid weapon or armor piece may be rerolled through the speaker/gunsmith respectively using 10 motes of light per piece, upgrading it to the new highest level possible, i.e. 36 light or 331 attack as of now. • [i]This will reset all nodes in the gear. Similar to how Xur upgrades Exotics.[/i] • [i]Upon completion of this upgrade the final nodes for damage and defense, that used to require ascendant material, will now require radiant material instead. [/i] • [i] This method forces players to use the current standard materials earned through the DLC, hence requiring players to own the DLC in order to do so.[/i] [/b] This will effectively allow, not only, a unique environment where players can have a boost to their level with gear that has become somewhat obsolete, but effectively solve the "everyone looks the same" problem. Additionally, when the light level is increased, to say 34, during the House of Wolves DLC, players will have three different sets of Raid gear to hit max level with and be able to use the perks they provide in harder versions of the raids. Please let me know what you think and if you would be interested in this process. Edit: People weren't reading the italicized bullets, so I made them bold...
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  • [quote][b][i][u]NECROBUMP[/u][/i][/b][/quote]

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  • I would like to see a tiered progression system where getting to 30 requires VOG gear, getting to 32 requires CE gear, and getting to 34 requires HoW gear. It kinda sucks that VoG is pointless because vendor gear is better.

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  • This would make me so happy. Literally just did VoG today and got 2 helmets some boots and the timepiece. It'd be awesome if they could keep the old raid stuff relevant and I'm gonna hold onto it all in case they do

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  • I'm on board. So tuff to get r. Shards. Takes one month or 4 weeks to get enough to upgrade one piece of raid equipment. The other gear is obsolete to why not be able to trade in for at least something towards raid gear. Obviously the bungie doesn't read these things or they would do something about this. What's the spence of playing every day when you only have to play once a week to upgrade gear.

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  • I understand your points man, but it's an mmo style game. Progression is what mmo's are made of. If you could gain weapons that were on par with weapons from the very first raid, when its been say 2 years and we're on our 6th raid, then there's no point in doing the new one right? It's simply level one, level two, higher levels gives better weapons and armor. Means to an end.

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    • No, just no. Then it'd be soo much easier to get max lvl

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      • Shameless self bump!

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      • I vote against this.

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      • Edited by Kuvnoz: 2/11/2015 5:29:49 PM
        DeeJ already stated that he does not pay attention to petitions but... Yes, that would be nice. Edit: should not be upgradeable to the newest level cap. Attack and defense values yes, but one level below the current cap for previous raid gear.

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      • I tend to agree but I don't think it should be as good at the Crota Gear, but it definitely should be boosted to be the same as what you can buy from the Vendors Now. 33 Light and 331 Attack respectively. Your old gear should not automatically be upgrade, but perhaps there is a method to upgrade it through the Speaker. Really, we need something for the Speaker to do, he must be getting awfully lonely with nothing anyone wants to buy.

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      • Bumping this. It would make it to where the older raids still have a purpose through the upcoming DLC's

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      • I don't know, I think increasing old raid gear and weapon levels right off the bat is a bad marketing strategy.. I think once they release a new raid, only the new raid gear/weapons (and exotics) should be able to get you to max level. Then once the hard mode is released, maybe a week after, they should have the option of upgrading old raid gear. Maybe even instead just have a whole other higher level you have to complete to get the higher level gear, as trading in motes of light would make the newer raid gear obsolete in the fact of getting the best level gear.

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      • Bump

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      • Bump.

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      • FOUND A HACKER/CHEATER Veroli His name is Veroli Search his name and look at his gear especially his primary, look at the attack cap.... they are over 331 limit... WTF He also has a necrochasm over 331+ attack wtf... how How?! His name is Veroli the Hack. ..Update: he took off necrochasm and put on a scout rifle with attack over 350.... how the hell

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        • Weapons yes armor no

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        • No. Theh should upgrade them, but we would have to get them again. Only way it would make sense.

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        • One million times bump

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        • That makes the new raid gear pointless, the drop rates are good anyway

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          • I still love my VoG helmet which became completely obsolete the day dark below came out. Bump, bump, bump!

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          • I completely agree with this. I have conqured the VoG over 100 times and have been lucky enough to complete two sets of the old raid gear. I loved the look and liked going into the Tower with something hat looked completly different. However, after all of the time spent in the VoG all of the old armor is now completely useless! The Vanguard gear that you buy is now higher causing the gear to be completely useless. I really think this was a horrible idea.by the Bungie staff to not allow the gear or weapons to be updated to the next higher level. By not allowing these items to be upgraded this means that the countless hours spent in the VoG; which IMO is a far better challenge than CE; will be useless and the VoG will be nothing but a distant memory when the HoW drops. I agree with the idea to use the MoL to upgrade the gear and armor because I do not use the MoL unless Xur sells the helm or Chest engram. I would even.be happy with a RGN deciding on what armor and weapon would be upgraded that week. I mean come on Bungie you already have the coding and concept in place with Xur so how much longer would it take to add this feature into the game? And please don't tell me it would take too much time, money, or effort... You have stated that you have an estimated $500 million invested to the game and a 10 year plan. However, the only part I don't agree with is the shards needed to upgrade the armor or weapons. I truly believe that there.should be one currancy to upgrade the armor and weapons. We (the players) still need to reupgrade the items so why not allow us to use the same currencies for all raid items? There is already too many different currencies between the Vanguard and Crucible Marks (which only the Crucible marks are good for the three other venders in the tower.), Strange Coins, MoL, Ascendant (Shards and Energy), and now Radiant (Shards and Energy). That is eight different forms of "currency" in the game where.you really only need just a select few. What will happen come HoW? Add a month and tenth form? At that rate there.could be almost twenty different "currencies" by the time D2 comes out. Which IMO is absolutely unnecessary and unwanted. I truly agree that the VoG armor and weapons need to be upgraded to be relevant in the game for years to come but the multitudes of different "currancies" need to be reduced.

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            • Obsolete gear should stay obsolete. But Creat a vanity slot or put in transmog that will fix the everyone looks the same issue.

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            • Rerolling and all that would take too much time on the Development Team's end. I wouldn't mind doing a lv32 or 33 'Legendary Mode' VoG for upgraded 331 weapons. Who's with me.

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              • They should make the vault gear get u to 31 and after house of wolves comes out upgrade all weapons to 331 ... Especially fate bringer and vision of confluence

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              • Go Get new crota primaries, you'll forget all about vog weapons.

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