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Edited by malsamax: 11/3/2014 10:22:48 PM
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We Are The Darkness - Theory

We all know how Bungie presented Destiny's "storyline" (currently the equivalent of an excuse to kill things...a lot), was [b]terrible.[/b] However there is always the ever expanding range of Grimoire cards that genuinely are well written (Especially in contrast to the game itself, *I'm looking at you Exo Stranger*): We wonder Bungie, why have you hidden away all of your story substance in an external app/website and literally 0% of it inside the core game? Well... [quote]I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain.[/quote] Anyway, I'm not here to rant about the wasted story opportunities in the core game (however it wouldn't be a destiny story discussion without it). Getting to the point, I'll summarise here: -The Darkness is the Traveller. -Humanity is extinct. -The aliens are the good guys. Yup you read that right. That big hovering ball of hope and happiness turns out to be as twisted and dark as The Speaker (have you heard what this guy says? He's like a modern day Herbert the Pervert). Basically, after reading a number of theories and more grimoire cards than I'd like to say, I've agreed on the idea that the Traveller isn't what it says it is, just because we saw a cutscenes with rain on mars doesn't mean anything, play that scene again with intense villain music and you'll get a whole new perspective. In my opinion, this Civilisation and life hating 'Darkness' is the Traveller, it 'travels' around and attempts to corrupt and destroy intelligent life as it goes. 'The Fallen' could be one such victim, as the name suggests they were once a great empire ruled by a respected Royalty. Read up on some grimoire cards for information on that. Obviously they're not so united anymore, more like clans now, squabbling between themselves. Has the traveller corrupted their once structured society? Did the traveller destroy their home world? Are they chasing in desperate revenge? The same could probably be said for the Cabal, possibly being as warlike as they are, could simply see the Traveller as threat and wish to attack it while it's weak. The vex are one of the more interesting races. The Vex originated from the Black Garden. They began as gardeners and architects born simply to worship and serve the god that lived there. As seen in grimoire cards the garden is [b]the[/b] place of life. If this garden is the birth place of life and existence wouldn't that make it the polar opposite of the Traveller? Why do you think we're sent to Destroy the Garden's heart? One Grimoire card really gives huge ground to this kind of theory, "Legend: The Black Garden" describes a Guardian who had visions of the Garden, of himself waking through a path in the garden, experiencing all of the life around him. One paragraph reads: [quote]At the end of the path grew a flower in the shape of a Ghost. I reached out to pluck it and it cut me with a thorn. I bled and the blood was Light. The Ghost said to me: You are a dead thing made by a dead power in the shape of the dead. All you will ever do is kill. You do not belong here. This is a place of life.[/quote] This piece says a lot. Let's break it down. First of all is the suggestion that ghosts were grown in the Garden. That would say that Traveller stole the ghosts from the garden, would that be the reason that the Vex now attack it relentlessly ? To retrieve what is there's? The fact that Ghosts can return life to the corpses of guardians strengthen the theory that they came from the garden where life itself was born. Next is the very clear message that "Light" is not the all heavenly substance we think it is, or as the traveller portrays it to us. It is a power of death, almost like a necromancy. The Traveller is accused as a dead thing, as are the Guardians. One very interesting line is: "You are a dead thing made by a dead power [b]in the shape of the dead.[/b]" is this suggesting that humanity is in fact "dead"? That maybe the Traveller wiped out the human civilisation and what remains are resurrected dead things made in their image, fooled into fighting for a long lost cause. "But what about the city in the distance?" Exactly, have you ever seen that city from anything other than a [b]distance?[/b] Then there are the Warminds. Especially Rasputin. We know they were created to combat the Darkness as a last ditch effort (probably against the Traveller). But it was too late, Rasputin and the others had failed and humanity was destroyed. But what are Warminds programmed for? Not to sit around and do nothing or tell you where the nearest Starbucks is but for [b]war.[/b] This would explain the Warminds continues un-cooperative behaviour. I'd love to hear you're opinions on this to add to everything's as much as we can, all we can do at the moment is speculate but I've found it enjoyable. I'm not taking credit for most of this since it's really my opinion cobbled together by the many theories and ideas I've read. Please leave a comment below! Edit 1: If you found this interesting I strongly recommend reading the comments, props to everyone who contributed. Some of the ideas below are even more detailed and interesting theories. Edit 2: I've decided to take the best and most in-depth theories suggested here and move them to a new topic for easy reading, authors are credited: [url]http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/76767850/0/0[/url]

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  • Edited by CrimsonVlk23: 11/3/2014 6:06:15 PM
    Probably the reason the story is so bland as it is. Originally the Traveler and Guardians/Speaker are the bad guys but they had to try to half-ass rewrite it towards the end to make us look good so none of it makes sense. I've had the feeling all along we're like the space zombies just rezzed to do the Speaker's bidding. "Kill this, kill that, don't ask questions" kind of thing. Reminds me a bit of the plot of Oblivion, we are basically Tom Cruise not realizing the Tet is evil at first. Personally I think the warminds defeated the Traveler at a great cost to humanity and Rasputin is all that is left. This would explain why the hive are trying to get into the RAS2 bunker in Forgotten shore with a servant of Oryx in the bottom of the boat near the Vault entrance. I think his AI core is in there and they want to destroy it to remove the last obstacle to bringing back the Traveler, meanwhile Rasputin is trying to reach out to the rest of the system to see what remains of the other warminds to see if he can get their resources/revive them, which would explain why he's in the machines on Mars. Meanwhile the Speaker and ghosts rez all of us up and create their own little myth about the past and what really happened and they now have their own little army to fight the Traveler's enemies. The only thing that doesn't make sense is why we are fighting against the Hive, but perhaps that was just lost in translation when they re-did the story, or its a cover to hide the Hive's true purpose. I also believe the Awoken are humans that escaped Earth during the collapse and gained new powers/abilities and appearances while living for centuries on the borders of dark space. They know the truth about the Traveler and have remained in hiding. Of course sadly we'll never know if any of this is true.

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