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Edited by sims3k:
10/6/2014 2:50:10 AM
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BladeDancer is seriously broken!
FYI IM NOT SAYING BD IS OP, it just isnt working right.
So what exactly is so broken about them?
[b]They take considerably less damage while dashing during the super.
There arent any skills or abilities that give them a higher damage resistance, and yet they survive what should kill them.[/b]
Ive got a few clips showcasing this.
[url=http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=2533274817724282&gamertag=Sims3k&vid=092f4a8d-9632-47cf-9d5f-268d9080adb3] Clip 1[/url]
[url=http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=2533274817724282&gamertag=Sims3k&vid=14563d76-3b82-4e81-b38c-33abed4d22ae]Clip 2[/url]
[url=http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=2533274817724282&gamertag=Sims3k&vid=30208d70-afba-4c77-8d5f-6b634aa483fa]Clip 3[/url]
[url=http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=2533274817724282&gamertag=Sims3k&vid=e1a4a5e8-2c2e-4dd2-b0b2-f7ad4b938aca]Clip 4[/url]
[url=http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=2533274817724282&gamertag=Sims3k&vid=83649447-23af-4d7e-9c11-58f574d36b02]Clip 5[/url]
[quote][url=http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=2533274817724282&gamertag=Sims3k&vid=27f32cf9-b2d7-4774-8dd3-7a6a2fadb907]Level 9 Hunter gameplay clip i recorded[/url]
Its so easy to dominate with this class, you never get this many multikills or sprees as a titan.[/quote]
This subclass is so stupidly broken. When you stand still and take bullets you take normal damage, when you dash using arc blade bullets pass through you and dont register. Fix it bungie.
[u]At no point in the ability descriptions does it mention that blade dancers have extra shield or armour during their super.[/u]
[b]They SHOULD NOT be harder to kill, its not some ability they get.
Bullets ARE NOT doing the damage they should be doing.
This is BROKEN and needs to be fixed.[/b]
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1 ReplyBladedancer is far from broken... I've been killed while using special way to many times. Mostly shotguns or specials from others. Just gotta hit them before they get close... and they do gain life back for connecting a strike btw
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Broken
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1 ReplyGranted, I am not very good at PvP and I don't have much experience with it in general...on one occasion I took down a blade dancing Hunter--mid super. It seemed like timing is what counted and I know that it was luck more than skill on my part. I am voting no opinion because I need more experience on the matter. By the way, level 27 Titan; my highest level and only slot that is level 20+ at this time.
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I think blink strike is broken sometimes I stab someone twice and only the blink strike registers but then again it could be lag
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2 RepliesBladedancer is a touchy subject. While yes you get kills for days, you do get damage resistance while in it. Both supers for all classes get d.r. Hunter gets the least amount of d.r. out of all of them. And I have even tested this. Using my hunter, a lock friend, and a titan friend, all went to rumble. I activated golden and blade on my friend using nova bomb. Neither ability one shot him, but his bomb one hit me (and collateraled a random (oops)). Same with titans ground pound. While trying to hit him mid super was tough, I still managed to hit him with both supers, both resulti g in my ultimate death. Everybody finds that the classes they aren't using are op. Truth is, all classes are op in their own way, it's just what you are good with. So is bladedancer really broken? No, it's just tricky to use. And yes I know the lock twitch is pretty rage-y, it is still easy to kill a hunter in b.d. if you have the timing.
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1 ReplyI've been playing all classes now. Almost level 20 warlock, 24 Titan, 27 Hunter. If you ask me, ALL of the classes are NOT op. Each class may seem overpowering, but they each have their weaknesses. When I'm a BladeDancer and I jump into a huge group of people, I kill just as many as a Titan would when he uses the assault super or when the Warlock uses their super. Blade dancer is also not that great in pve. (When I'm swarmed by goblins and my crowd control ability is drained after 4 uses, I am completely open) Why would I want any of the classes to be dubbed down? I used to think the bubble for the Titan was op. All you have to do is just wait and sit until the bubble is extinguished. The only reason why people are complaining about the BladeDancer is because hunters are the top used class and BladeDancer is one of the most used subclass.
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1 ReplyI would find it interesting if you could get a breakdown of the class of the people who voted in this poll. I've got a sneaking suspicion that a majority of those who voted that it was not broken primarily played hunter (perhaps blade dancer, call it a hunch). Meanwhile a majority of those saying it is broken would probably mostly be comprised of titans. I don't think warlocks would have a statistically significant placement on this poll.
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3 RepliesEdited by ravenofnight: 9/30/2014 2:28:33 AMbladedancer IS crowd control IT not broken All crowd control abilities fall into one or more of three broad categories sims3k i see ur a titan im guessin that why ur so piss with bladedancer...
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34 RepliesFor one, arch blade is literally the most under powered super. You need to run and get close to the enemy but can't use it right in front of them cause you take damage. Shot-guns kill Arch Blade in one shot. Titan's super OP 1hit pummel can't kill Arch Blade. Arch Blade can't kill a Titan or Warlock in the use of Fist of Havoc or Nova Bomb but instead results in only taking down shields. In a bubble shield or Ward of dawn it'll take about 3 melee attacks and even then the majority of people using ward of dawn, or people in general, use shot guns. The other super for sunslinger (the name escapes me) deals massive damage and is able to grenade spams as well as keeping distant. Arch Blade isn't broken but rather it's under powered. Especially compared to other supers.
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Will update op with links to hunter gameplay video I took. Its so profoundly broken compared to titan. Level 9 hunter class, played only five or six matches in crucible and got so many multikills. Strong mobility, strong super, strong grenades. I only got shut down once the entire time, that was when I thought I could take on 3 people holding a control point all waiting for me.
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How the hell is Bladedancer broken compared to other subclasses? [spoiler]Or do you mean Arc Blade, the Bladedancer's super?[/spoiler]
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BD is fine bc all the other classes gets a lot harder when they use there special also when they do there certain special bc there is one special tht makes them stronger to kill
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11 RepliesWhy blade dancer is op 1)it gives you a shield wen you get a kill 2)it auto aims to the next person for you 3)you lunge pretty far 4)it isn't AOE meaning you can move around and kill people around the map unlike the titans where if you miss or mess up thats it it's gone Why blade dancer is balanced 1)it isn't
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1 Replybladedancer IS crowd control how many more times do i need to say it it not broken it jump from 1 person to next AKA crowd control FFS
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1 ReplyEdited by sims3k: 9/30/2014 2:37:57 AMive got clip 5 now, which shows that blade dancers dont actually get an extra shield or any extra armour. I kill this bladedancer with a shotgun melee combo. This just proves that bladedancers are supposed to be weak, but half the time bullets arent registering on them. It just proves the bad latency issues in the game. I want to break down clip 5 and analyse it. Hunter blinks in and survives my super because of my teammates "well placed" bubble. Hunter blinks out to recover and activates his super behind a corner. Hunter is confident he can take on 3 people inside a ward of dawn. All 3 of us have blessing of light overshield. Hunter dashes at Warlock but miscalculates, hits him once and removes his shields but forgets to finish him off. Hunter dashes at Titan and 1 hit KOs him somehow? He had the same shield as the warlock. He starts to dash at me with a quarter shield strength, i shoot him with a shotgun and melee him the same time he melees me. I survive with an inch of health and he dies.
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I've been killed right in the middle of my striker super-why can't I be unkillable like blade dancers??????!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
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I wouldn't say that the Bladedancer Subclass is [i]broken[/i], but I would say that it is [i]slightly[/i] overpowered compared to all the other Supers. Many people on the forums have exaggerated the effectiveness and imbalance of the Arc Blade Super probably out of frustration of repeatedly dying to it, but there is only one problem with it. It's the ability modifier Hungering Blade. This perk immediately triggers health regeneration on Arc Blade kills, and the regeneration rate is so fast it can fully restore the Bladedancer's health bar almost instantly. Immediately starting health regeneration is fine, but not at such a crazy rate, especially since the Bladedancer already has significant damage reduction while Arc Blade is active. It takes so much firepower to bring down the Bladedancer's health while Arc Blade is active, and yet all that health can be regenerated in about a fraction of a second if you get killed by Arc Blade, so even if you were extremely close to killing the Bladedancer, your efforts are practically useless to your teammates. To the people complaining about the damage reduction, that isn't the issue with Arc Blade. The damage reduction is necessary for Arc Blade to be used effectively, since it is a melee-based skill. Hungering Blade is currently way too powerful, but other than that, I don't find Bladedancers particularly OP.
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The entire "Not Broken" poll voters play as blade dancers... :') BD is my second character it's stupid broken... Main is a Warlock, primarily Sunsinger but I do occasionally go back to Voidwalker, BD can survive my triple nova bomb plus explosive radius buff... It's pretty horsesh*t...
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5 RepliesNo its not broken you just got to be smart about it,run away from them and make them waste the super.Stop trying to go head on against an arc blade,it's like when people go head on against a defender's shield.You wont win that fight because of the huge shield buff.
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"Galvinize your blade and armor with arc lightning" it says something along those lines
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This whole thing is a lie I have gotten killed so many times when I think WTF why did I get killed blade dancer should have so much more health
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It's broken sometimes, had someone using blade dancer survive 2 rockets and still had a quarter of his shields left and proceeds to pull of a triple on Delphi, but then there's times where thorn kills them in 3 hits with poison damage, then they survive fists of havoc with their shields completely intact but die from shoulder charge... Wtf
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2 RepliesMadcuzbad
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It's called a super for a reason and it all balances out in the end in my opinion, besides the grimoire card on it pretty much describes exactly what you've said isn't mentioned anywhere, I would link it or something but I'm still new to this forum thing sorry :/
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1 ReplyThe supers are designed in a way that pretty much any one super has a counter to another. A golden gun will kill a blade dancer one shot. A fist of havoc will as well, so will a nova bomb. A Titan in the ward of dawn with decent skill will also defeat a blade dancer in most cases especially if he has a team mate with him. A sunsinger may get killed by the blade dancer but they could resurrect and kill the hunter once the arc blade ends. An arc blade will kill a single opponent one on one pretty much any time if they don't have their super ready, just like most supers do. Many times an arc blade will inly get one kill because team mates are spread out, sometimes if they ARE all close together the blade dancer WILL get a multikill, also not very different from strikers or void walkers. 3 kills with an arc blade is normal for someone experienced with it and with the right perks. It's hardly better than any other super. My sunsinger friend can get 3-4 grenade/melee kills with his radiance active. My Titan character will get 3 or more kills on people foolish enough to come in the ward of dawn. Blade dancer isn't OP, at least in my opinion.
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Edited by Øbscure: 9/29/2014 5:18:14 PMQuote from the Grimoire: [quote][b]Arc Blade[/b] Set aside your weapons and lose yourself in the blade trance. Arc light galvanizes your armor and hastens your movements, and when your knife finds a target it discharges a snap of annihilating current. For as long as the trance lasts, you are the very shadow of death.[/quote] Sounds like it's working as intended.
