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9/29/2014 5:14:12 AM
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For one, arch blade is literally the most under powered super. You need to run and get close to the enemy but can't use it right in front of them cause you take damage. Shot-guns kill Arch Blade in one shot. Titan's super OP 1hit pummel can't kill Arch Blade. Arch Blade can't kill a Titan or Warlock in the use of Fist of Havoc or Nova Bomb but instead results in only taking down shields. In a bubble shield or Ward of dawn it'll take about 3 melee attacks and even then the majority of people using ward of dawn, or people in general, use shot guns. The other super for sunslinger (the name escapes me) deals massive damage and is able to grenade spams as well as keeping distant. Arch Blade isn't broken but rather it's under powered. Especially compared to other supers.
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Absolutely NOT underpowered. Its so easy to use and can chain multiple kills together. Press RB to dash through the air towards an enemy, youre nearly invulnerable while doing so, and then one hit KO them
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All supers have ways you can get away from them except this one . Should be able to jump to safety in some way. IMO.
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I honestly belive that blade dancer is perfect. I use it and couldn't be happier and it is definitely not op
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I think it's the most underpowered super. Not enough to the point where it would need a buff. Arch Blade is fine the way it is. But everyone is saying "oh it's super OP and needs a nurff" it's incredibly stupid.
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Agreed.
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Amen man
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You are right. Arc blade should instantly teleport you to each player on the enemy team and OHK them.. then teleport you to them again when they respawn, and you should be indestructible the whole time. Because we all know the titan and warlock have similar supers.
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What are you talking about?
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I think he is trying to say through over dramatic sarcasm that warlock and Titan specials seem to have invincibility frames and nuke everything in a large area, at the press of a button.
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Edited by Piece_of_Awsome: 9/29/2014 7:21:28 AMThe defense of a titian, abilities similar to nova bomb and FoH, plus Fast enough to close greater distance then FoH with no problem. Let's not forget it last longer then most supers. I'm not seeing under powered I'm seeing brokenness
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It's not longer. It's just as long as arch blade. Don't forget it's a super. You're asking to make it easier to kill someone in a super when it's already the weakest super. That's a little much.
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Arc blade is not the weakest it is the 200 % strongest super. It's a mode with 1 hit melee, blink strike, addable range or Aoe attacks, possible healing and without no mention about it a defensive that is better the the defensive classes. Nova bomb, 1 large blast that is will kill everyone near it but is still 1 blast. Fist of Havic, close range nova bomb that does not come with defense as that must be added. also 1 shot. Golden Gun, 3 shot from super powered hand cannon. Ward of Dawn, that same shield from Halo that can make characters glow with weak buffs Radiance, lowers cool-down for grenades and can be added with weak armor or come back from the dead (after dying) It does the most things out of all the supers and i would just like to see the defensive abilities of the passive supers be as stronger as arc blades armor.
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While in arch blade you die incredibly easy. Compared to every other super. So please explain to me how it's the strongest. Your points don't prove anything. You're just saying what the supers do. Arch blade cannot kill someone using FoH or Nova bomb. In the bubble arch blade takes 3 strikes to kill but can take a single shot gun blast and die. Arch blade needs to be close but hp gets melted incredibly fast. Arch blade cannot be in a group of people while activating the super other wise the health is gone in seconds before you can even kill anyone. Nor can you be too far away otherwise you have to run all the way up and you get killed without a single arch blade kill. Arch blade dies to Titan 1 hit melee, which itself is already super op. So please tell me how it's the strongest. Come at this logically. Remember that it's a [i][u]super[/u][/i]. It's not some secondary weapon like shot guns, which are OP and need to be nurffed. The only reason it seems like arch blade is strong is because a large amount of people play as hunters. If your gonna tell me Arch blade is the strongest you have to explain is detail rather than just saying what each super does.
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It does NOT take only 1 shotgun shell to shutdown arch blade. It takes more than 1 rocket to shut down arch blade.
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Then please explain why I continuously die in a single shot gun blast. Please. With details and supporting arguments, explain.
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Details and supporting arguments? This isn't a scientific hearing, everything on these forums is based on experience. I've experienced shooting a Hunter in arc blade with a rocket and he shrugged it off. I threw a grenade in the face of a Hunter in arch blade and he kept trouncing on through to shank me.
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I have also experienced dying in one shotgun blast, one rocket, and one Titan Melee attack; all while using Arc Blade. I seriously don't see where people are getting the damage reduction stat from. If anything, Bladedancers have the super with the most stuff wrong with it. Cause with all other supers I have seen, the kills register instantly but the game doesn't register that I slashed a guy until I am already dead.
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And I continuously die to OP shot guns while in arch blade.
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Edited by dpunk3: 9/29/2014 8:48:22 PMCall me crazy, but I think you're exaggerating. Everyone on these forums think arc blade is OP, myself included. Other hunters think arc blade is OP.
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Have u even played the game or watched Arc Blade come @ you. I've shot rockets at it and seen them only remove shield, I've stuck magnet grenades to it and watched both explosions leave it standing. I've even seen a player dodge nova bomb and kill the castor of it. I've had it one hit kill another player and in my Ward of Dawn, while we had shot guns. You can not tell me there is not crazy defense to Arc Blade. Clip 1 and 3 show it take 2 fusion rifle shot each a one hit kill but not die. Clip 4 shows it run straight in to a machine gun and heal back up after kill. The defenses it has is never mentioned and does not need to be added. The effect of armor while in Ward of Dawn, Radiant Skin, and harder to kill while using Fist of Havic must all be added and r not as strong.
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The very last perk you unlock recovers health per kill with the arch blade. However, your hp needs to regenerate to the first 25% of your health. If it doesn't, by the time you get shot, you're pretty much dead. I've taken bullets from a machine gun, while not in arch blade and lived. It's not that hard to out gun you just need a good strafe and a good shot. Fusion rifles in itself is OP but not nearly as OP as shot guns. You're forgetting it's arch blade is a [b][i][u]super[/u][/i][/b]. To ask for it to be nurffed is ridiculous. Why should it be easy to kill but none of the others are? You're not bringing up points of how it's the most over powered. You're just telling me what the person who posted experienced.
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Edited by Piece_of_Awsome: 9/29/2014 5:47:52 PMI don't want Arc Blade nerft I want my defender's defense buffs to be just as strong. I don't even get to kill with Ward of Dawn and all of its defense buff r minor, about half as good as Arc blade. Feeling like just a glow with no effect really
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What? 1 strike to a normal player 3 to a Titan in ward of dawn and you want a buff? How is that not stranger than arch blade? It's impossible to get a kill inside WoD unless their controllers all died. How is that even? WoD is a defensive, team oriented super. You use it for the team if your under heavy fire. It's good for countering the sunslinger super where he can spam grenades constantly. The only super WoD doesn't counter is FoH.
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Edited by Piece_of_Awsome: 9/29/2014 6:09:05 PMAgain u sound like u have not played the game. It only time 1 hit to kill a titian with blessing of light or force barrier active and at most hits when armor of light is active. 2 hits that r take no time between them to happen. Blade dancer has walked in to my WoD and me team mate and me no problem. Nova bomb with scatter can actually take down the shield and kill me while Nova Bomb with the other ability leave damaging field in WoD
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I've walked in on a 1v1 in WoD and died immediately. Please explain how this happened. Full health. No one around to put out extra damage on me. Walked in sliced twice and took a shot gun to the face.
