Have "Raids: Matchmaking" & "Raids: Clan".
I'm in a clan (Join: http://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Post/162357/67307809/0/0 )...but some people may not have 5 other friends or the time to find a clan. I don't think that people should be kept away from end game stuff if they paid full price for the game just like the rest of us.
Make a matchmaking section that is easier with less/not as good loot.
Clan section has best stuff.
Everyone plays all content. Everyone wins.
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Bungie should create a separate social area for raids and endgame players. It's as easy as that.
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I have a clan (We Will Be Legends) as well, it's very small however (so anyone interested is welcome, I created it yesterday before work). I also only have a few friends that own a PS4, so my list of people that I can game with is very small currently. Raids and matchmaking seem like a good idea for me personally. I see why it's not, and hope it never happens (thought you knew where I was going with this did ya?) As with my clan, I don't want someone that will have parents yell it's bedtime and take my team of 6 down to 5, which normally when that happens, takes it down to 4 or 3 (past matchmaking experience) and eventually down to me. I am the type of player that even if the odds are against me, I will fight it out. So the ONLY way I can see MM being anything more than harmful for players like me, is have some sort of system to track how many times a player leaves in the middle. Now, sometimes things come up in life, and not saying if you left in the middle one time or 2 times makes you a bad person, but the people that leave when things get tough, or "have to go to bed" will be seen for who they are because they have the most times left in the list. That's the best solution I have for the MM situation, do I personally want it? Yes, till my clan gets bigger and my friends all get PS4s. Do I think it will help things, and be a positive experience for 99% of players? That sadly is a big fat no at this point.
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They should have a bar in the tower called "The Lonely Raider" where people can hang out to find people to party up for raids (no party chat allowed inside). It would make it easier then having to post on forums ect looking for people to join you. People would/should only be there for one reason, to search for a team of randoms to party up to raid
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...so, this is what you call [b]solving a Situation[/b].....ohhhkayyy... *makes a note in his "players to avoid"-book.
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If all the uproar over the no matchmaking thing continues and bungie sees that raid participation is significantly lower than expectations, then I'm sure match making will be added in a patch later down the road.
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If you dumb down the difficulty of the raids, it's not a raid anymore, it's just a long strike.
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No match making for raids. That a terrible idea to allow.
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You speak of the "situation" as if it's a problem in it's current state.
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Awesome that is cool clans for fireteams but will we have the chance to fight against other fireteams in a fight for the loot?
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It would be pretty sad if you don't make any friends by endgame
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OR people can spend the next month getting organized for raid groups... OR you could use Strikes as a pseudo Raid and add players who do great on strikes as a friend. I guess this is Bungie's fault for making people try to socialize by going out of their way to add a friend.
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Nope , misleading title
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What reason is there for having worse loot? Using your logic, matchmaking should have better loot due to it being harder.
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Terrible. That's just a terrible idea. Guess what I sloved the matchmaking problem too! It's called use your mic and meet new people it's not that hard. As for joining a clan if you've been on the forums then I guarantee someone has sent you a clan invite. Finding a clan doesn't take that long either even if you've never received an invite.(as long as put in a small enough effort) No they should not make a easy playlist Bungie has already set the limits and almost everyone agrees a raids difficulty is fine. All people have to do is reach out if all the players who said they had no friends for raids talked to one another they would have more than enough people. [spoiler]This is not all directed towards op.Just all like minded individuals in general. [/spoiler]
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The argument I keep hearing for not having mm for raids is that people doing mm will complain about the difficulty and try to get it merged but what yu don't realize is those same people will complain no matter what and as for partying up before hand you will still get trolls and people who rage quit so what's the difference between mm and searching on your own at that point
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By the time raids are available in game yu will have met enough people in game to do raids if yu havent yur socially unfit for destinys society i made atleast 10 while playing the beta.. So i really dont think people even need to join a clan for this reason, but if yur a good pve player puzzle solver join https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Playstation/158922 [u]THIS IS MY CLAN, I SCREEN EVERYONE BEFORE ACCEPTING, COMPLETE WANKERS NEED NOT APPLY, [/u] half wankers will be given a chance... ALLBLACK EVERYTHING [b]JOIN NOW^^^[/b]
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Talk to any WoW Player from the classic days, Matchmaking raids destroyed Raids. Don't make the same mistake here guys. Hell they pulled it off with 40 player raids. We can't come up with 5 other people, lame ass excuse.
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The issue they run into with matchmaking is that raids require communication and a good amount of skill. If they did matchmaking that means kids who really try their hardest and want badly to go as far as they can or reach the end can get paired up with kids who don't talk, don't know what they're doing, or just don't really have the skill at the game to go as far. So in turn it hurts a lot of players in the community. It's counter productive to a lot of people. It isn't hard to make friends who play the game or who do raids. You can also try to gather people at the tower or from the forums. There are ways to gather people for those who aren't the real try hards or just simply don't have 5 friends to run with.
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Edited by THUNDERCHILD: 8/7/2014 2:36:18 PMThere will be no matchmaking. If anyone wants to raid join a clan here at Bungie.net, they created the integrated system here for a reason. The only thing stopping anyone from finding guys to raid with is laziness.
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The 1 end game raid is meant for players set aside time and can for a group of friends to do it with there is nothing wrong with having 1 thing devoted to a section of the gaming population just like Pvp
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Edited by KoR x Hitman: 8/7/2014 2:34:37 AMAbsolutely the worst idea ever. If you don't have friends, you don't play. All you have to do is put in effort to get people together. Instead of making cry baby posts, people can make posts about needing people to play with. Stop crying, do some work!
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Destiny is a multiplayer game that discourages finding new friends to play with. They do that by not having team voice in PvP. No matchmaking in raids and some will argue proximity chat. I don't agree with proximity chat in pve cause I don't want to hear some one arguing with his mom while exploring. I say implement them all but give us an option to disable each. Or at least mute.
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Why you shouldn't play with people you just met.
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i agree but destiny needs to be for everyone reguardless of skill. bungie is failing on this like blizzard did with wow. only a small number of people will raid and destiny will fail. just wait you all will see. do not take my word for it.
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Just make it optional then people who don't have five friends who can play it at the same time have an option and the people who do don't need to use it it's a win win people don't wine about not having friends who play and the people with friends on don't have to use it
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Edited by CHIRAQ: 8/7/2014 6:26:33 PMYou didn't solve shit cuz they're not allowing match making deal with it!