Your math is wrong. 2 percent of 10 is 0.2, a number so low that when we round it to determine something like damage, it goes away. What you meant to say is that 2 percent of 100 is 2, and since most of the AR rifles did about 100 points of damage on average, we are really talking about shaving 2 points of damage off of every bullet. Honestly if someone dies because of this weapon change, we are looking at a scenario that is so close that they were dead before the weapon change. The precision damage thing is another story. Before what was happening was a 1.5 Multiplier, which meant that if you head-shot something it would do the normal damage and an additional half of that damage again. Cutting this down to 1.25 instead doesn't seem like a lot, but again, if we're talking about 100 points of damage per bullet, which seemed pretty normal to me, we're talking about 25 damage points per bullet, which is a bit of a bigger deal. As for the Stability, this is actually the first thing that I noticed in my little 10 minute excursion to see if the AR was now broken. I used it to mow down a pack of fallen, and what I discovered was that it was a bit harder to single out a member of the pack than it had been before. My issue with all of this is actually with those last two changes. If they were going to change the weapon stability to make it more difficult to achieve a string of critical hits, there wasn't a reason to drop down the damage modifier for critical hits like they did. What they ended up doing was actually make me not want to aim for critical hits with my AR, because most enemies (with the exception of Vex) have their critical points in an area with a lot of open space around it. If I'm going to be wasting 3 out of every 10 shots when I try to go for a string of criticals because they are literally going over the head of what I'm aiming at, that means that I have right off the bat wasted 300 points of potential damage. Given that a critical hit only grants me an additional 25 points of damage, instead of the 50 that it used to, that means that 6 of the remaining 7 hits that I was going for have to actually be critical hits in order for me to break even. When you break it down to simple maths like you did, the real change is that the Auto-rifle now has a specific function, and that is to target large groups of baddies that are bunched together, or specifically target the Vex who have a critical point at centre of mass. The unfortunate thing about doing this with the AR is that that is a function that is really meant to be taken by your heavy weapon, because both the heavy machine gun and Rocket Launcher do this job faster and better. I know why they did what they did. The Auto-Rifle was filling all of the roles that a weapon should fill reasonably well, so there was no reason to use anything else, but what they did pushed it into one box, but also took away it's teeth so that it wouldn't be the best option for that box. When I get back to playing again, I'm switching over to a pulse rifle, because really, small bursts is how I found myself using my Auto-Rifle in patrol anyway. It's kind of sad that I won't have a full-auto mode any more unless I stumble upon a pulse rifle that can be modded in that way that isn't the stranger's rifle (which doesn't do enough damage). It isn't a game breaking change, but it is hard not to see it is a dark storm-cloud of what might be coming next.

You're speaking solely in PvP terms. In PvE terms, cutting the teeth out of a weapon's critical hit damage can make a massive difference on whether or not a tough enemy can be dropped before it kills you. It can mean a huge difference on dealing with a bullet-sponge Strike boss. PvPers measure their kill speed in mere seconds. PvEers measure their kill speed across the spread of an entire mission, or for the length of time of a high-durability boss fight... we measure in minutes and hours. Not all of us use the Suros Regime. And not all of us are engrossed with shooting other jackasses in The Crucible.

I started doing the pvp part of the Thorn quest today. I am using the Atheon's Epilogue AR with the void damage. I started before the update and had like 153 points in a fairly short amount of time. I came back to try some more this evening and after the update I can barely kill anything with it. Only chance I have is if I blindside them. If it's a shootout I might as well forget it bc I think I could tickle them for more dmg. The stability is noticeably worse too. Now it may be just this gun. I haven't tried the Suros yet. But I had to stop using it. In all fairness it may be me not syncing well with their server. As I have said before when they "fix" one thing they ruin 1 or more. It seems I take an awful massive amount of dmg now too fairly quickly. I do pretty well in the Crucible normally. I usually get between 1st and 3rd and have a respectable K/D. So I know it's not me being bad or that in a few hours I suddenly forgot how to play. But I'm dropping like a lead balloon now and to me it seems I am really not being hit by much.

Really wish they didn't nerf the Mythoclast so hard it's not even worth using. Literally now the weakest exotic in the game.

"2% of 10 is... 2" 2% of 10 is 0.2, ain't hard

I dont really care about it.. I use sniper rifles for long range, and auto rifle on close range.. My AR is giving 300 damage, i can live with 295

bro u should delete this post,you giving them ideas to nerf em even more!!!lol

My auto rifle still pops skulls. All is good in the land of Destiny. But honestly though, those 2-3 shots that have been added is just gonna make it harder countering bum rushing shotgunners.

It's a 25% nerf to crits not .25

HOW DID THEY NOT FIGURE ALL OF THIS OUT BEFORE THE GAME IS OUT FOR SALE...ALL OF THE PATCHES SEEM TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE GAME?...WHEN WILL A PATCH ADD TO THE GAME NOT TAKE AWAY

marginal?marginal? the accuacy of hard light was horrible befor patch,after patch u can dismantle it...